Talk:Daylight saving time

Ambiguous Local Time

I came to this article to find out how local time is disambiguated. When we "spring back" for example at 2:00AM, we reset clocks to 1:00AM, how do you refer to the first 1:15AM as opposed to the second 1:15AM? I don't see any mention of this problem or its solution here.

I would prefer if someone more knowledgeable makes this change. I noticed that individual computer languages have done their own contributions to this issue. For example https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0495/ refers to the two repeated hours as "folds."

Arif Zaman (talk) 11:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I think you would refer to one of them as 1:15AM Local Daylight Savings Time, for example Mountain Standard time (MST) and Mountain Daylight Time (MDT). Regards, 2001:56A:FA12:D300:CD96:A764:FA05:897F (talk) 14:55, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

There is no "Spring back" thing but "Fall back" instead... "Spring foward" (from Standard Time to Daylight Saving Time, +1 hour) and "Fall back" (from Daylight Saving Time to Standard Time, - 1 hour).—AnnaBruta (talk) 12:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

"Jordan is currently the only country to switch to daylight saving time before the end of winter."

This is nonsense. Most of North America uses DST, and switches over to it on the second Sunday of every March. Needless to say, this is before March 20 or March 21, the only possible dates for the arrival of spring in the Northern Hemisphere. Also, this person's reference says Jordan switches to DST in October. Ouf. 184.147.89.192 (talk) 22:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree, and have removed the incorrect passage. Jc3s5h (talk) 23:13, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Antarctica

The first illustration on the page doesn't include Antarctica as currently observing DST, but since all flight come from Christchurch New Zealand via McMurdo base every settlement on Antarctica uses New Zealand time (UTC+12 standard, UTC+13 DST). Also in the past it once was designated it's own time zone (Antarctica/South_Pole), but that has fallen out of practice now with all current organizations officially using the Pacific/Auckland time zone designation. I only bring this up because I was asked about time zones in the South Pole myself and did not know (being it technically has six months of night followed by six months of day) and when I turned to this page for information on that time zone it was unclear. Maybe someone could edit this page to include this info, perhaps add a small subsection? At the very least it is an interesting fact to know. 209.160.133.10 (talk) 19:14, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Permanent daylight saving time

The information in the United States area of this subsection is outdated and should be edited. Elsewhere on this page it was mentioned that the United States will be going into permanent DST in November 2023, Should this should be reiterated here and should the outdated information be removed? 209.160.133.10 (talk) 19:33, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

That's not what the article says. The article says "in 2022, the U.S. Senate unanimously approved a bill to make DST permanent, starting November 2023." As of today, the bill has not been passed by the House of Representatives. So it is appropriate that the bill is discussed in the politics section of the article. If and when it passes the House and is signed by the president it can be described in other parts of the article. Jc3s5h (talk) 23:03, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

In the Permanent daylight savings time subsection it discusses the different bills, proposals, and commissions different U.S. states have put forward that would need Congressional approval to take effect, is this still applicable? What has happened or will happen to the individual states' efforts? Should this be expanded upon or updated in this subsection? 209.160.133.10 (talk) 18:57, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

A proposal to eliminate DST has been presented to the Mexican Senate

Sorry, I only have news in Spanish, but it seems relevant: https://www.eleconomista.com.mx/politica/Camara-de-Diputados-aprueba-eliminar-el-Horario-de-Verano-en-Mexico-pasa-al-Senado-20220929-0049.html Not A Superhero (talk) 14:58, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Daylight savings time is used so children can play sports in the afternoon with more sunlight

People wake up earlier in the winter so children have more time playing outside, and participating in sports after school, while the sun is still out. It's not about saving candles at all. 2601:647:4000:12E0:6C2F:967C:983A:AB19 (talk) 02:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

The article doesn't propose that the purpose of DST (now) is to save candles. Did you actually read the article? Do you think Benjamin Franklin proposed DST in 1784 so kids would have more time on the soccer field? General Ization ^Talk 02:47, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the main purpose of Daylight Savings Time is so that kids have more time playing outside after school, and it's not known to be started by Benjamin Franklin either. 2601:647:4000:12E0:6C2F:967C:983A:AB19 (talk) 02:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)