Talk:One Tree Hill (TV series)/Archive 1

In Singapore, One Tree Hill and the O.C. were broadcast one after the other....so you can compare both show easily....

It irks me how adult-like the kids are in Tree hill, whereas the kids in OC behave like kids.. most especially Adam Brody.

• Are you serious? Nobody in the OC behaves like children; most "teen" shows are 27-year-old adults pretending to be 15 while showing a picturesque high school situation. Closest casting and acting I've seen is Undeclared. CKSCIII 07:01, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
  • The O.C. also has parents who are generally too young to be parents of people that age. - Matthew238 08:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Images

I think we could get a few images for this page - there is a lot of text, so maybe a few picture to break it up a bit. There are two screencaps (I think only one is allowed), and a few promo's could be added - see Wikipedia:Image use policy. There are sure to be some on the internet. - 03:37, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

The image in the infobox should be changed as well. I think originally it had what it is supposed to have, i.e. a title card, but then someone changed it. The current image just shows a fraction of the proprietary cast and would perhaps fit in the article elsewhere but doesn't have a suitable spot in the infobox.

This page is enormous!

Has anyone considered simply condensing the season recaps down into maybe two to three paragraph summaries instead of giant tomes recapping every sneeze, cough and ass wipe of the characters?

• I always thought that the seasons recaps were a bit long - that why I put them at the bottom of the page, otherwise you would have to read throught a heap of stuff before you got to any other section. The page could obviously be cleaned up a bit - a little more info (and maybe pictures) to begin with, and maybe a little less plot details.-.Matthew238 07:59, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Season 3 description needed! - There is a great description of season one and two but nothing of season three - could someone fix this please?

• If anyone is going to write a season 3 description, they are probably going to do it after season 3 ends, that way they have a complete summary for the whole season and not in the middle of one season.

Looks like someone did, but I have to wonder if lifting them verbatim from TV.com is in compliance with copyright legality, since the editor of the show on that site assumes copyright over his/her words. TheMonkofDestiny 20:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't think there should be an episode description on the main page. It makes the page even longer than before. If we want episode decriptions then they should be hyperlinked to a seperate Wikipedia page just for that episode. I agree that the TV.com article may not be copyright legal.

Well that said, can one of you guys copy and paste the information on the main page to a separate page? I'm quite inexperienced at that sort of thing, and it would be stupid for me to screw it up! Thanks, if you could. :) 210.50.189.32 08:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Peter Wentz Information

Hey, any One Tree Hill fans that are familiar with Peter Wentz wanna tell me what episode he's in and in what season if u know? Luv ya! -Chloe Trohman

The episode(s) of OTH that Peter Wentz was in were: An Attempt To Tip The Scales (3.4), When It Isn't Like It Should Be (3.18) and I Slept With Someone From Fall Out Boy And All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me (3.19), all in the 3rd season. :) 210.50.189.32 08:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Exactly, those episodes were the BEST, GREATEST and above all HOTTEST!!!!!As you can tell, I'm a Pete fan. Brody0113 00:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Please Note!

Can whoever keeps linking Paul Johansson stop? There is no article of the actor, and articles start to look ugly if they have too many redlinks to nowhere, or if someone is of high skill (unlike me), start an article about him? It'd be much appreciated. Also, please stop putting 66/66 on the No. of episodes- there are 67, the 2-part season finale of the second season is regarded as two separate episodes. 210.50.189.85 05:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Problem solved - I have started a Paul Johansson article. Ellisjm 17:07 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Links to song/album titles

It seems that many of the episodes have names that refer to famous music albums or songs. Some of these have links to the wikipedia article for the song/album, but is this really appropriate? Seeing a link on the name of an episode makes me expect a summary, not a link to a completely different, unrelated article. If the links to the albums/songs are kept, there should at least be a note on the linked article saying something like "xxxxx is also the name of a season 1/2/3 episode of One Tree Hill" and/or something explaining the significance of the name -- I've never watched the show, but maybe the episode called "All that you can't leave behind" has some deep connection to the U2 album? Ampassag 07:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, if there isnt already, we should add a section/page to the main page that tells why they named it One Tree Hill? Its not that important but its a good bit of information.

Spoiler Warnings

I must admit that I'm not really au fait with all the conventions for Spoiler Warnings and the like, but surely if in the Premise one is given information that might ruin a twist or surprise there should be a warning. A better solution, however, would be in the following from the Premise:

The show is currently in its third season and the above information is relevant only to the first season. There is nothing going on between Peyton and Lucas anymore, and Nathan and Haley are married. Lucas and Nathan have improved their relationship.

If everything after the first sentence were deleted then someone's future enjoyment of the show might not be ruined, like mine has been. (It's not the end of the world, though.)--Rubie 12:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Why the title?

Does anyone know where the title, one tree hill comes from? why "one" tree hill, etc (The previously unsigned comment was added by 222.153.32.111 03:31 UTC 6 June 06)

The writers wanted to call it Tree Hill after one of them saw it on the map of Australia. It was originally gonna be called The Scott Brothers (hence Les Frères Scott), and then another thought why not add the "one" to the front to make it like the U2 song... Ellisjm 10:36 UTC 9 June 06

Actually the show was originally called "Ravens" because it was going to be a movie on The WB. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.149.208.69 (talk • contribs) 7:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC).

"One Tree Hill" is the address of the school. Most schools in NC (where the show is based and set)... have addresses like that.

The show is called "One Tree Hill" because of the U2 song off the album The Joshua Tree. The shows creator (Mark Schwahn) was listening to that album/song while writing the original draft of the show. When it was going to be a tv movie it was called "An Unkindness of Ravens". "One tree Hill" is not the schools address and the song off the U2 album is about a volcanic peak in New Zealand, not the town in Australia.

Season 3 Summary

Is anyone going to put a season 3 summary in? It has said Summary Coming Soon for months now. Kay44
One Tree Hill is the school's address. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.251.57.211 (talk • contribs) 6:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC).

Seasonal and episodal summaries- way too long

These are supposed to be summaries/synopses, not long detailed accounts of everything. I suggest someone trim the fat out. Y2kcrazyjoker4 15:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

As is mentioned above. Lists of episodes can go on its own page, as is done with other shows. Plot summaries could also be incorporated in a list of episodes, saying what happens each episode, althought that is easier to do with sitcoms with self contained episodes rather than dramas with overarching storylines. - Matthew238 09:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

The Ratings section

I was thinking maybe we could edit the rating section alittle. Maybe start on how the show started out ratings wise. 2.4's to 2.6's then after the episode Crash Course in Polite Conversations (the episode with Lucas's coma, the Peyton/Lucas/Brooke triangle, ect.) the ratings surged to 3.9's and 4.0's

Maybe mention how the show changed with Keith's death and how that effected the ratings as well. Seeing as the show mainted it's "high" ratings until his death and after that key point of the series the ratings declined.

if you go over to tv.com it shows that the episode With Tired Eyes, Tired Minds, ect. 3.6 million veiwers tuned in after this episode the ratings significantly got worse

Ex: Before. A Multitude of Casualties...3.5, Champagne For My Real Friends Real Pain for my Sham friends...3.6

After. I Slept With Fall Out Boy and... 2.76, Over The Hills and Far Away...2.2, The Show Must Go On...2.3

I think thinking that maybe we should show individual ratings for each episode, would that be a problem for someone to do? so we can see sort of a scale of how they go up and down and up and down.

Sorry.

I was removing the Joe Davola from the Exec. Producers because a wikipedian on the main pages talk page warned about a vandal posting his name in a number of different articles. If Joe Davola is really part of the cast, then i'm truely sorry. dposse 00:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, understood. Yep, he's really an executive producer on the show. -Shannernanner 07:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Official OTH Website on CW

I think that a link should be added at the bottom of the page linking to the new OTH website on CW. The link is: http://www.cwtv.com/shows/one-tree-hill

Misha 18:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Recurring cast

According to both IMDb and TV.com, William Haze appeared in six episodes. The list is according to the most prolific of the recurring characters; I fail to see anything unencyclopedic about this, as it shows who appeared in the most episodes, and it has nothing to do with POV. I used the cut-off of five episodes so as to not make the list impossibly large, or stretch the definition of "recurring." Putting them in order of episodes makes it easy to prune the list should it become too large in the future; the cut-off number of episodes could be modified. Shannernanner 10:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Edits

A logo is not synonymous with a title screen; the former is a graphic used in promoting a product, the latter is a screenshot of the title sequence of a television show or film. The date is not needed in the episode number as it is not mandated by the template syntax guide, and it should be assumed to be up-to-date; as well, the link provided next to the number lists all of the episodes to date. When pluralizing a noun in which you pronounce both Ss, both are spelled out. Shannernanner 05:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Please discuss changed here rather than continuing to revert. The date is not needed because the page should be kept up to date. If the date is added to that, it would be just as logical to add it to the cast list, saying, "This is the cast as of November 1 2006." If there were no way to tell when the information had been gathered, it might be logical to include the date, but as the list of episodes is included in the link right next to the number, anyone can count the episodes to date. Shannernanner 15:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

As no reply has been posted, I will return it to the recommended form. Shannernanner 06:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Opening Credits

Added the fact, that several episodes have only the shows logo or title instead ot the opening credits. It's somethin unusual that should be mentioned.

Actually several series cut the credits sometime, like Desperate Housewives for intance. Siemgi

Episode Titles / Song Titles -and- Show Title

The following site lists all of the episodes of One Tree Hill and matches the title of the episode with the title of a song and the band/artist that sings it.

http://misc.xylot.net/misc.php?id=14

Also, according to the Wikipedia page One Tree Hill (song), the TV show was named after a U2 song from their 1987 alumb "Joshua Tree".

I am asking the community if I could add the site above to the list of links, because it is specific information that is useful to visitors and important to the article's focus (the TV show itself).

TerranRich 17:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Just wondering if anybody thinks the link above is a good addition to the Wikipedia page. I do, because it is relevant information to the series. Or, I could make it into a separate Wiki page, and link to it from the main article?

TerranRich 18:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Box

I just wanted to say that I had added some recurring characters bios, so the One Tree Hill box is no longer up to date. Also Deb is missing from the main characters section. Siemgi

Deleted season 4 information

I deleted two points at the end of the season 4 description that were invalid and unnecessary. The two points had to do with Brooke and Nathan's sex-tape revealed in episode 4x14. Brooke and Nathan were not 14 and 15. The tape was filmed sometime in or before the early part of season one, which would make Brooke and Nathan either 16 or 17 as in the early part of season one they are both juniors in high school.

• Remember the timeline of One Tree Hill. Season 1-2 was junior year. Season 3-4 was senior year. And by Brooke's birth certificate we may be able to conclude that season 1 took place during the 2005-2006 school year.

Include a section about product placement/cross promotions?

One of the most prominent things about OTH is the product placements - so much so that it affects storylines and character background information. Dan Scott's car dealership changed brand a number of times, even during the same season. The characters can be seen driving whatever brand of car Dan's selling. iPods change to Rios change to 'mp3 players' - Apple computers become Dells become computers with stickers over their logos. The whole cellphone thing. As well, episodes where drinking or sex or drug use is part of the storyline often have PSAs as part of the commercial breaks. The Sunkist tour tie-in as well as the music tours featuring artists doing appearances on the show. The list goes on and on.