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Warren and Brown

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No sources available, no news mention (wiped out by everyone else also called warren/brown) Fermiboson (talk) 09:30, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Australia. Shellwood (talk) 10:46, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - in addition to the above, large parts of this article are copyvios from this page on the company website. It would need a fundamental rewrite to clear out the copyright material and reduce the promotional tone, but the effort is not worth it for a company that broadly fails WP:GNG. -- Euryalus (talk) 11:14, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - removal of copyvio items, and usage of material on talk page. Australian companies of the sort fail GNG et al, specially if it is based on google searches - I dont know if part of Trove is interrogated by google or not, but there were four easy refs to find in trove - one small problem is that Warren & Brown is a 100 year old estabishment in Toorak - and is notable for its transition in products over time - but somehow the trove is not used by fellow editors very much... JarrahTree 12:10, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A highly respected brand in auto workshops so check trade papers if you can find one. Their torque wrenches (best known for tightening head bolts) were legendary and went world-wide. The "dual signal" was a trigger release that was both felt and heard when the torque set-point had been reached, so could be used in circumstances where a dial could not be seen, in the dark, or by at least one blind mechanic — vale Ted G. Doug butler (talk) 13:39, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I see mentions of GNG in the !votes above but this is a company therefore WP:NCORP guidelines apply. We therefore require references that discuss the *company* in detail - not their products. As per WP:SIRS *each* reference must meet the criteria for establishing notability - we require at least two of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and "Independent Content". I've seen some sources mention products but I haven't seen anything that meets ORGIND and provides in-depth information on the company. HighKing⁺⁺ 11:33, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. It should not be difficult to find sources for a notable company in the Anglosphere. This is promotional, and not particularly useful; a company could be five hundred years old, have invented the screw, and have ten billion dollars in assets, but if it's not got substantial independent third party coverage it doesn't meet WP:NCORP. FalconK (talk) 02:05, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''' I see mentions of GNG in the !votes above but this is a company therefore [[WP:NCORP]] guidelines apply. We therefore require references that discuss the *company* in detail - not their products. As per [[WP:SIRS]] *each* reference must meet the criteria for establishing notability - we require at least two of deep or significant coverage with [[WP:CORPDEPTH|in-depth information *on the company*]] and [[WP:ORGIND|"Independent Content"]]. I've seen some sources mention products but I haven't seen anything that meets ORGIND and provides in-depth information on the company. [[User:HighKing|<b style="font-family: Courier; color: darkgreen;"> HighKing</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:HighKing|<span style="font-family: Courier; color: #da0000;">++ </span>]]</sup> 11:33, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 22:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --><noinclude>[[Category:Relisted AfD debates|Warren and Brown]]</noinclude></p>
+*'''Delete'''.  It should not be difficult to find sources for a notable company in the Anglosphere.  This is promotional, and not particularly useful; a company could be five hundred years old, have invented the screw, and have ten billion dollars in assets, but if it's not got substantial independent third party coverage it doesn't meet [[WP:NCORP]].  [[User:Falcon Kirtaran|FalconK]] ([[User talk:Falcon Kirtaran|talk]]) 02:05, 1 December 2022 (UTC)