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February 2008[edit]

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User talk archives[edit]

BTW how does one create a User talk archive? Doug butler (talk) 21:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
There are lots of ways it can be done, some of them automatic, but I've had no success with the automatic ones, (and anyway, being the control freak that I am, I actually prefer to have control over what's happening.)
So I do it manually. And there are several ways you can do that, too.
Probably/possibly the easiest/best way to do it, (certainly a better way to do it than what I do, but I only discovered this method in the last year - had I discovered it earlier, I would probably use it), is the two step process:
1) Use "move page" to rename your talk page (e.g. move "User talk:Doug butler" to "User talk:Doug butler/Archive 1")
2) "User talk:Doug butler" will then become a redirect to "User talk:Doug butler/Archive 1". Edit "User talk:Doug butler" - remove the redirect and replace it with the stuff (copied from "User talk:Doug butler/Archive 1") that you like having on the top of your talk page.
Then, next time you want to archive, move "User talk:Doug butler" to "User talk:Doug butler/Archive 2"
Hope that helps. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. That seems to have worked. Doug butler (talk) 15:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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George Morphett and Morphett families of South Australia[edit]

I have split out the Morphett families of South Australia from George Morphett, I am not sure about the notability of the families but it does appear misplaced in that article. It does look likely they are related, more work would be needed to show that. (Note the FamilySearch Tree might be of use ) -- Paul foord (talk) 04:20, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Ladd's cordials[edit]

I'm not sure why this article was created: it doesn't seem to even try to make any claim to notability, and the whole article is the family history of the guy who founded it, who it also makes no claim to notability for. I don't nominate your articles for deletion because I appreciate all your hard work, but this is so not the first time you've gotten caught up in researching someone's family history and then tried to shoehorn it into Wikipedia without any encyclopedic context and it's really not the place. The Drover's Wife (talk) 03:15, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Ladd's ginger beer and sodawater were big sellers when I was a kid, probably the third biggest name in soft drinks in SA after Woodroofe's and Hall's. Virtually all I could find from Trove was, understandably, some people and some places and a lot of boring advertisements. I suspect they were big importers of ginger and sugar. They had a lot of industrial action, most, peculiarly enough about the workers having to (illegally) wash, fill and put "Ladd's" labels on bottles that belonged to another company. But you're right, I stumbled on the name when working on Frederic Chapple, who really was significant, and wondered where it would lead. But being the third soft drink company is not nothing in the history of SA. Doug butler (talk) 03:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
See, all of that is really interesting - but it's not in the article! The Drover's Wife (talk) 03:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
It's also interesting that, like Bickford's, the company was run successfully by a woman, and probably for a lot longer than the dates would suggest, given that the old man probably died from the effects of alcohol. We congratulate ourselves today on businesses being run by women, but in those days that was the lot of a great number of middle-class widows. I've deleted the family list, as it shows no signs of linkage into the great web of Adelaide Business Families. Doug butler (talk) 03:59, 8 May 2016 (UTC)


Since you asked - it sounds borderline notable (and relevant to my interests!) but could probably make that case better. It says she was one of the first women graduates (and from the timing she obviously was), but there's no sources for that and no detail - was it not written about it at the time?

As for the husband - perhaps another case of slightly eclectic merging, since he is also marginally notable, but amusing to see the husband merged into the wife's article for once. The Drover's Wife (talk) 12:02, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


I don't have the permissions, I'm sorry - you'll have to follow the procedure at WP:RM (in the uncontroversial/technical requests section) for that. The Drover's Wife (talk) 03:39, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Circumnavigating Australia's Coastline vols 1 & 2[edit]

Goo afternoon, thanks for the email. I have heard of Coghill - I will have a look in the local library to see if there is a copy that I can look at. They may be useful if there are any descriptions such as coastal features, perennial navigation hazards and et al. I will comment further at a later time. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 07:20, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Hambidge Wilderness Protection Area[edit]

Hi Doug butler, the source of 'Hambidge' in the Wilderness Protection Area's name is the Hambridge Conservation Park which was named after the Hambridge National Park which was originally named after the Hundred of Hambidge. This is evident from the the Property Location Browser reports for all of the above features. While the Hundred itself is named after Clive Hambidge, I think it is not appropriate is to directly state that the Wilderness Protection Area is named after Clive because Hambidge, like many of the other Hundreds, became a local name used by local residents. Therefore naming of Wilderness Protection Area reflects a local useage rather than an ongoing recognition of Clive Hambidge. I also minimised the content re Clive as the article is about a protected area and not about Clive. Please reply here if you have any comments. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 05:32, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for a great piece of work. Do you have anything on Mt. Jagged, somewhere near Victor Harbor? It was the site of SA's first iron ore mine and the first attempt at iron smelting in SA. Found about it in a book about A. Simpson & Son.; see Alfred Muller Simpson. Doug butler (talk) 05:46, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
There is a suburb called Mount Jagged in the City of Victor Harbor and a mountain of the same name withn the suburb - please refer Property Location Browser (don't forget to select the "Suburbs and Localities" layer). There is some information at Also a search on the DEWNR home page may reveal information about the natural environment. The PIRSA and the Department of State Development may also have information about the mining of the iron. Also, I am aware of the particular Simpson family as one of my relatives married into it; by the way, if Katie Allen Simpson & Leonard Charles Simpson have a common set of great-grandparents, they are second cousins. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 08:01, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Also, part of the locality of Mount Jagged is located in the Alexandrina Council. Cowdy001 (talk) 08:04, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You get a barnstar for your tireless contribution to improve Wikipedia content, specially articles related to Australia. Thanks. -- Tito Dutta (talk) 06:15, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Charles Hope Harris[edit]

Hi, I just finished an article about a salt lake called Lake Harris which was named after Charles Hope Harris, a government surveyor. Biographical notes published in 1899 indicate that he had a notable career in the South Australian civil service. Suggest that you should consider drafting an article about Mr Hope. Please reply here if you wish to comment. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 11:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for slow response — have been on the road the past few days — sounds like a worthwhile project. Shall do. Doug butler (talk) 05:38, 26 September 2016 (UTC)