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*::Analyzing each of the eight sources currently in the article: (1) [https://president.vrdgov.org/ his profile on the fake government website], (2) [https://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/osnovali-drzavu-na-nasem-spornom-teritoriju-cilj-nam-je-pomirenje-naroda-1524432 passing mention, primarily about the micronation], (3) [https://www.pagina12.com.ar/371297-verdis-la-eco-republica-libre-que-preside-un-pibe-de-17-anos interview which provides no significant coverage about him], (4) [https://www.elperiodic.ad/opinio/article/88446/altres-singularitats Passing mention, primarily about the micronation], (5) [https://danas.hr/zivot/zanimljivosti/liberland-20-kako-jedan-cetrnaestogodisnjak-stvara-drzavu-izmedju-hrvatske-i-srbije-74d7ac4e-b9f2-11ec-9384-0242ac12001f Despite what the subheading suggests, the article barely even provides a passing mention of him], (6) [https://metro.co.uk/2023/04/30/verdis-the-sovereign-state-on-croatia-and-serbias-disputed-border-18689539/ Metro is an unreliable source], (7) [https://www.mylondon.news/lifestyle/travel/southall-teenager-sets-up-new-26385041 Not bad, but still primarily about the micronation with only a couple biographical details], (8) [https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2021&mm=09&dd=20&nav_category=12&nav_id=1925323 Entirely about the micronation, subject barely even receives a passing mention]. [[User:Curbon7|Curbon7]] ([[User talk:Curbon7|talk]]) 13:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC) |
*::Analyzing each of the eight sources currently in the article: (1) [https://president.vrdgov.org/ his profile on the fake government website], (2) [https://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/osnovali-drzavu-na-nasem-spornom-teritoriju-cilj-nam-je-pomirenje-naroda-1524432 passing mention, primarily about the micronation], (3) [https://www.pagina12.com.ar/371297-verdis-la-eco-republica-libre-que-preside-un-pibe-de-17-anos interview which provides no significant coverage about him], (4) [https://www.elperiodic.ad/opinio/article/88446/altres-singularitats Passing mention, primarily about the micronation], (5) [https://danas.hr/zivot/zanimljivosti/liberland-20-kako-jedan-cetrnaestogodisnjak-stvara-drzavu-izmedju-hrvatske-i-srbije-74d7ac4e-b9f2-11ec-9384-0242ac12001f Despite what the subheading suggests, the article barely even provides a passing mention of him], (6) [https://metro.co.uk/2023/04/30/verdis-the-sovereign-state-on-croatia-and-serbias-disputed-border-18689539/ Metro is an unreliable source], (7) [https://www.mylondon.news/lifestyle/travel/southall-teenager-sets-up-new-26385041 Not bad, but still primarily about the micronation with only a couple biographical details], (8) [https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2021&mm=09&dd=20&nav_category=12&nav_id=1925323 Entirely about the micronation, subject barely even receives a passing mention]. [[User:Curbon7|Curbon7]] ([[User talk:Curbon7|talk]]) 13:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*:::I'm seeing your analysis as [[WP:BIAS]] and [[WP:GASLIGHT]] due to your namecalling of the mans website (1). As for (2), there is a section on him. (3) has a section on him titled "Señorito presidente", (6) the article should be considered reliable as it is part of the news section of Metro. The rest you have described relatively accurately from what I can see. [[User:MicroSupporter|MicroSupporter]] ([[User talk:MicroSupporter|talk]]) 14:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC) |
*:::I'm seeing your analysis as [[WP:BIAS]] and [[WP:GASLIGHT]] due to your namecalling of the mans website (1). As for (2), there is a section on him. (3) has a section on him titled "Señorito presidente", (6) the article should be considered reliable as it is part of the news section of Metro. The rest you have described relatively accurately from what I can see. [[User:MicroSupporter|MicroSupporter]] ([[User talk:MicroSupporter|talk]]) 14:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. I agree with the nominator and the source analysis by Curbon7, there is at most one rather questionable source here that potentially demonstrates notability, insufficient to pass [[WP:NBASIC]] or [[WP:NPOL]], both of which require multiple substantial pieces of coverage. Everything else is primary sources, passing mentions, or stuff that has no business being around a BLP, like the [[WP:METRO]]. [[Special:Contributions/192.76.8.84|192.76.8.84]] ([[User talk:192.76.8.84|talk]]) 12:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC) |
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Looking through the sources, this is, at best BLP1E, and at worst spam for a non notable micro nation. Common name, but still not seeing this meeting notability standards for BLPs. Courcelles (talk) 18:13, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, United Kingdom, and Australia. Shellwood (talk) 18:16, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Notable person. He is on metro, MyLondon, pagina/12 and LaNacion, all high-traffic and trustworthy sources. Should lean away from micronations though — Preceding unsigned comment added by MicroSupporter (talk • contribs) 18:33, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Croatia, and Serbia. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Is this going to be another micronation-related flamewar? :) --Joy (talk) 19:11, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- I honestly hope not. I got here off an RFPP request to unprotect redirects created as a result of AFDs at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Republic of Verdis and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Verdis (2nd nomination). A certain user does seem interested in making sure this topic has an article in one form or the other, though. Courcelles (talk) 21:06, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete I'm all for micronations, but not only is he non-notable, the micro nation itself is non-notable. These sources do not look good. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:47, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Croatia–Serbia border dispute#Liberland_and_other_claims which is the only thing that he is known for. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:23, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Why on Earth is this fantasy silliness worthy of even being mentioned on an article about a real world subject, though? Courcelles (talk) 22:43, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- He's already mentioned at the suggested target so I'm not necessarily asking for more coverage on him than what is already on the project. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 23:23, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with MicroSupporter appears to be notable based on the sources. I have edited the article to address NPOV issues. Jack4576 (talk) 12:04, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - The individual is notable and is on two of Argentina's largest news networks. As for 2023 sources, he is on myLondon and Metro, both of which are extremely notable in England. Joshuawoods1982 (talk) 12:24, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: More micronation cruft. Clearly non-notable figure. Coverage is primarily about the micronation itself, with the subject only having passing mentions. Curbon7 (talk) 12:37, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- You realise that almost each one of the references mention the guy in the title of the article? MicroSupporter (talk) 13:04, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Analyzing each of the eight sources currently in the article: (1) his profile on the fake government website, (2) passing mention, primarily about the micronation, (3) interview which provides no significant coverage about him, (4) Passing mention, primarily about the micronation, (5) Despite what the subheading suggests, the article barely even provides a passing mention of him, (6) Metro is an unreliable source, (7) Not bad, but still primarily about the micronation with only a couple biographical details, (8) Entirely about the micronation, subject barely even receives a passing mention. Curbon7 (talk) 13:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- I'm seeing your analysis as WP:BIAS and WP:GASLIGHT due to your namecalling of the mans website (1). As for (2), there is a section on him. (3) has a section on him titled "Señorito presidente", (6) the article should be considered reliable as it is part of the news section of Metro. The rest you have described relatively accurately from what I can see. MicroSupporter (talk) 14:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Analyzing each of the eight sources currently in the article: (1) his profile on the fake government website, (2) passing mention, primarily about the micronation, (3) interview which provides no significant coverage about him, (4) Passing mention, primarily about the micronation, (5) Despite what the subheading suggests, the article barely even provides a passing mention of him, (6) Metro is an unreliable source, (7) Not bad, but still primarily about the micronation with only a couple biographical details, (8) Entirely about the micronation, subject barely even receives a passing mention. Curbon7 (talk) 13:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- You realise that almost each one of the references mention the guy in the title of the article? MicroSupporter (talk) 13:04, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. I agree with the nominator and the source analysis by Curbon7, there is at most one rather questionable source here that potentially demonstrates notability, insufficient to pass WP:NBASIC or WP:NPOL, both of which require multiple substantial pieces of coverage. Everything else is primary sources, passing mentions, or stuff that has no business being around a BLP, like the WP:METRO. 192.76.8.84 (talk) 12:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC)