Talk:2023–24 UEFA Champions League

Russia

@아유무: Could you please explain why Russia should be included when the source provided states that the suspension is ongoing? If you have a source which shows the suspension has been lifted, I would very much appreciate it if you could share this. Thanks, Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 14:23, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Glasgow clubs and Bayern Munich

We should just put the Glaswgiean clubs and Bayern Munich in now, Celtic isn't going to lose a nine point lead to second place Rangers, and Superior goal difference. Japhes50005 2A00:23C7:A0BA:E001:3C2D:9BC:C161:860D (talk) 17:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Arsenal

Arsenal has already qualified for the season 2023/24 of the Champions League. Arsenal with 75 points and Tottenham with 53 points both have six matches in hand until the end of the season. Tottenham can have maximum of 71 points while Arsenal has already passed this digit which means Arsenal are already in next season of the Champions League. Zaki Frahmand 13:10 AEST, 25 April 2023

check Brighton--Baronedimare (talk) 10:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Can i ask how brighton can over take manchester city. Please explain your logic. Shaun150 (talk) 15:10, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Manchester City haven't qualified while four teams can still finish above them, no matter how unlikely that scenario may be. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 18:15, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Czech Republic

@ThatStatMan: Hey, thought it would be better to discuss here than start an edit war. As the article stands now, we are referring to the Czech Republic as both Czech Republic and Czechia across the three articles (2023–24 UEFA Champions League, 2023–24 UEFA Europa League and 2023–24 UEFA Europa Conference League in case anyone else wishes to participate in discussion). You said in your edit summary that UEFA refer to the country as Czechia. That's all well and good but Wikipedia isn't UEFA. The common name for the country in English is the Czech Republic and the Wikipedia article is at Czech Republic as a result (there have been eight move requests to change to Czechia and all have been unsuccessful). We should be consistent within an article and, as the country's common name is Czech Republic and it is already referred to as Czech Republic in the association ranking table, I think we should use Czech Republic for all mentions of the country within the article. Happy to hear your thoughts. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 20:32, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Stevie fae Scotland Thanks for adding the discussion. My thinking was these pages (along with the 'UEFA Coefficient' page I had updated previously) was that a) they are UEFA-specific and b) they are based on the 'association' rather than 'country'. Seemed to me that there was a quick switch from Macedonia to North Macedonia just a year or 2 ago when that became the vernacular in UEFA. I saw that there is that Czech Republic designation in the association rankings, which somehow hard-wires the name to Czech Republic - I don't know how that works. Anyhow that was my reasoning, that these pages are tied more to UEFA's rankings and matches than to the country itself. ThatStatMan (talk) 22:00, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

North Macedonia is quite different. In 2018, the country voted in a referendum to change it's name (subsequently approved by the national assembly) which is why football articles since 2019 have also changed. The fba template calls on the specific flag data template (in this case Template:Country data Czech Republic) to display the relevant flag and link to the relevant football association. It uses Czech Republic as the country's article is located at Czech Republic. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 08:22, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I rambled a bit above but the intent was to align UEFA-related pages to UEFA terminology. Makes me wonder why UEFA made the switch to Czechia in the first place. ThatStatMan (talk) 14:50, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

There are a couple of relevant points here. First, wikipedia has a standard name for "countries" that it applies as generally as possible. There are cases where UEFA/FIFA/AFC etc have different names for members and it is certainly a reasonable view that a consistent name across wikipedia is better, and generally the "common" country name (so, South Korea rather than Korea Republic, Kyrgyzstan rather than Kyrgyz Republic, United States rather than USA) ends up being used here. This is not always the case - Timor-Leste is the football team but wikipedia insists on East Timor for the country. Sometimes issues occurs when the "common" name is in dispute/changing, a trend that can be capricious at best; such as East Timor not changing to Timor-Leste or the Czechia question - while others like "Myanmar" got changed. 165.12.252.111 (talk) 05:24, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Ukraine and Belgium

Are there any sources that confirm following?

Should the Europa League title holders also qualify via their domestic league, the following changes to the access list will be made:

• The runners-up of associations 12 (Ukraine) and 13 (Belgium) enter the third qualifying round instead of the second qualifying round (League Path).

It means that threre are only two entries in the UCL second qualifying round (League Path) as well as in the UEL third qualifying round (League Path) in such case.

According to UCL 2023/24 regulations 3.04. b. :

...and the league path is rebalanced accordingly with priority given to the club of the best ranked association of the relevant round in the access list

it's more likely that priority given to the third-placed representative of association 6 (Portugal), which enters the play-off round instead of the third qualifying round (League Path)

92.60.179.239 (talk) 07:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)