Talk:Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One

Polish railway bridge controversy

I don't think that it warrants as much article space as has been written. Might I suggest that it is brought more on-topic, or moved to the article regarding the bridge itself? TN 20:26, 11 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TransportNut (talk • contribs)

So far, the majority of international coverage about the film applied to the bridge scandal and bridge itself. Once the production moves on with subsequent locations, the article will have a new perspective, and perhaps some details could be edited. — Kochas 19:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, thing is this is an article about a *film* not some social media - many things get undue attention and that's speaking more about certain people not connected with the film, then the production itself - there shouldn't be that much about this controversy in the article, in the first place. Mithoron (talk) 21:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mithoron: Sure, the article is about the film, and so the paragraph is about the *production* of said film. Hence the described conundrum summarized here relates to the film's production per se. The fact itself of it to have been the *national* news throughout a well part of the year, to then spread into other European news outlets, and the WSJ, is a good measure, and a rare occasion really, of the film production process, wouldn't you agree? — Kochas 22:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Has any coverage been released of the film throwing their train off the cliff and into the fjord in Norway, which was the alternative use for their replica steam loco. 2A02:C7F:5078:B700:4C03:1B22:9EF6:C98A (talk) 17:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I agree. Too much space has been given to the bridge.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Libra

Kochas moved the article from Mission: Impossible 7 to Mission: Impossible – Libra, but I reverted it. A working title is temporary, and furthermore, we adhere to WP:COMMONNAME. Gauging reliable sources, there are no sources using any title with Libra in it. Even if this turns out to be the official title, we do not know that at this time, and we follow sources in continuing to call the topic Mission: Impossible 7 until we find out more, especially about what sources call this film. Wikipedia follows, it does not lead. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 01:36, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Erik, Thank you for the revert. I was thinking of doing this but refrained. Shall I revert them back? Starzoner (talk) 02:46, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Erik:, oh well, I guess the "follow not lead" argument is relevant (looked like a straight-forward move) — still, why turn back the time completely? The source was always and still is valid and a WP:RS, so wouldn't we re-add it, and edit the instances in the prose back please? — Kochas 04:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

The working title is valid, but it does not mean it needs to be mentioned more than once. And I would not mention it upfront in "Production" either since that is undue weight; later in the section would be better. The film is widely known as Mission: Impossible 7 at this time, and that is what incoming readers know it as, and will continue to know it as, for the foreseeable future. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:23, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Title

A suggestion, if I may. Considering the film isn't going to be called Mission: Impossible 7 as Cruise has abandoned the numeral titling of the series since Ghost Protocol, wouldn't it be more appropriate to rename the page to "Untitled seventh Mission: Impossible film" the way the article on the fifth Indiana Jones film is currently titled? Just my two cents.--ZeroMinusTen (talk) 05:55, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Disney officially calls that film "Untitled Indiana Jones" (see here). By contrast, Paramount officially calls this film "Mission: Impossible 7" (see here). InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:59, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Visual Effects

Since the film is in Post Production, we all know Lorne Balfe is composing the film, but should we add Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) as the VFX company - here's the link to Alex Wuttke the VFX supervisor for ILM London . There's also an Instagram post by Christopher McQuarrie but he usually deactivates his account usually after he finishes filming a Mission movie, same with his Twitter. The only backup post I found was on IMFUpdates on Tumblr . I do apologise if the cites are a bit off — Preceding unsigned comment added by MOVIEFAN2001 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

References

Charles Parnell link is kinda wrong

The cast list on the right has a link to a dead man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.99.146 (talk) 19:15, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

When I posted this, it did. The history is logged, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.99.146 (talk) 02:52, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

@66.63.99.146: remember to sign your comments going forward CreecregofLife (talk) 03:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Not really. Here is the version of the article when you posted your comment, hence my reply. By the way, CreecregofLife, pings do not work with IP users. InfiniteNexus (talk) 03:10, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Logo

Since the trailer was released, and the official logo was shown, should we include the logo in the article? Red4Smash (talk) 17:42, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Well yeah, but someone needs to upload it first (with proper fair use rationale). InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:49, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

This has now been done. InfiniteNexus (talk) 03:56, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Bridge

the whole chapter about the bridge written by Poles should be removed, it is too much, 1-2 sentences on this subject is enough if it has to be here. 178.235.182.80 (talk) 16:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Please don't unliterally blank sections before discussing them first on the talk page. All of the information there is sourced and accurate. If you feel it should be trimmed, feel free to do so, but please don't remove the section entirely. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:59, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Amir Ali Shaik

Actor 2406:7400:90:FA25:C0F2:BE23:F3C2:18B2 (talk) 19:59, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Opening paragraph

The opening paragraph of the lead section violates WP:LEAD by relegating mention of Tom Cruise to the end and bundled with other actors' names. The due weight of recognition is far more in favor of Cruise than McQuarrie and Jendresen. There is no requirement for the director and writer to be mentioned at the very beginning every time since due weight takes precedence over editors' personal preference in worshipping these crew members. See User:Erik/Best practices#First sentences about films for a breakdown of why the current approach violates policies and guidelines. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:25, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

It is a stretch to call this a violation. You have a preference, for which you are free to make your case (and reasonably so since Cruise is very well known), but the current revision does not break any hard-and-fast rules. Especially WP:UNDUE, when you consider that Cruise is mentioned right after the franchise in the opening paragraph. Or you are suggesting that naming the director in the first line is undue when they are not a household name, which opens a whole other can of worms. McQuarrie is no no-name debutant, he holds a BAFTA and an Oscar (with two nominations) to his credit. If he isn't noteworthy enough for the lead sentence then where are we setting this bar? Shyamalan? Spielberg? 2001:8F8:172B:41ED:E1B3:E84A:626D:D202 (talk) 21:30, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Pom Klementieff's character's fate

The article as it stands says that Paris, Pom Klementieff's character dies at the end of the film; however, Greg Tarzan Davis's character has a line of dialogue at the end of the scene that states that she still has a pulse. I think the article should be changed to reflect the ambigious state of her character at the end of the film rather than unequivocally stating that she dies. 80.189.122.195 (talk) 17:48, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Typographical error

"Other filming locations for the movie included a terinal still under construction"

Can someone with a confirmed account correct terinal -> terminal? Thanks. 148.253.156.219 (talk) 14:32, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

When can it be declared a flop

Based on current trends, this movie will never show a profit or break even by quite a wide margin, using the standard formula of Hollywood math ([box office > film budget * 2]). This movie is becoming a textbook flop. At what date is it appropriate to add that fact to the article, and/or what unforeseen turn of events could negate this outcome? 74.104.130.145 (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2023 (UTC)