User talk:Emmmm.Ayyyy.

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Why would you say I have a conflict of interest? It was suggested from the Suggested Edits page as a place to practice. I don't have any connection to the company. Emmmm.Ayyyy. (talk) 19:16, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Asking about a possible conflict of interest is fairly routine when an editor has only edited on a single subject. Your declaration here that you have no connection is good enough to answer the query. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:37, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Ok thanks. It was a suggested topic for editing practice on the Home Page Suggested Edits. Emmmm.Ayyyy. (talk) 20:39, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Ammon Bundy and PRN

I think that there are enough sources and enough incidents to qualify the PRN for its own article. Ammon Bundy#People's Rights Network There is the formation in 2020, the water standoff in 2021, the incidents of PRN involvement with Bundy's crusade against St. Lukes Hospital in 2022 and also in the court case in 2023 up to the jury decision this month.

Can someone help me with the right way to propose or request this creation? @VQuakr had said "If sourced content grows to the point that a stand-alone article makes sense, we can discuss a split" but it does not seem responses to posting to the talk page get responses. Emmmm.Ayyyy. (talk) 19:07, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

I'll leave this up for someone uninvolved to have a look, but I think this topic is still best covered in the Bundy article rather than stand-alone. To more directly answer your question: the "right way" to formally propose splitting is described at WP:PROSPLIT. VQuakr (talk) 19:36, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

VQuakr is right that WP:PROSPLIT describes the process for potentially contentious split discussions. Participants in the discussion will want to know which of the reasons at WP:WHENSPLIT apply. Before starting the discussion, you might consider expanding the existing section (so as to justify a size-based split) or creating a draft article so participants can see how a standalone article might be preferable. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't think I am experienced enough to create a draft article. Part of my thinking is that the coverage of the 2021 water standoff shows Bundy less involved than the other events, though PRN is still mentioned in all of the coverage. Emmmm.Ayyyy. (talk) 21:20, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Feel free to take it slow! I think I was 1000 edits in before I created my first article. Drafts are a very low-stakes place, and you could also create a subpage in your userspace like User:Emmmm.Ayyyy./Bundy. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers and @VQuakr, I used an online word counter and the article on Ammon Bundy is at 5000 words. Emmmm.Ayyyy. (talk) 16:09, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Sounds about right. I'm also seeing (using this prosesize gadget) that the Bundy article is about 29 kB, which according to WP:SIZESPLIT "rule of thumb" puts it in the "Length alone does not justify division" category. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers I'm not saying length alone. There are instances where Bundy seems to be less involved than others like the 2021 Klamath water thing. The reporting from IREHR is quite extensive on the ties to some other organizations and there are also a number of other sections that are already split off. Emmmm.Ayyyy. (talk) 16:46, 29 July 2023 (UTC)