Talk:Piracy

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Fixing typos

“These Slavs relieved the old Illyrian pirateeering habits and often raided the Adriatic Sea. Already in 642 they invaded southern Italia and assaulted Siponte in Benevento.”

What does “relieved” mean? Should it be “relived”? It still doesn’t sound grammatically correct. I tried to fix this but the page was locked.

“Revived”?

Is Software Piracy the more applicable default term these days?

I came here looking specifically for information on what many call 'software piracy' and how it's related to, but not necessarily the same thing as 'copyright infringement'.

Seems that these days, people looking up 'piracy' are likeing coming from the context of software or the RIAA moreso that swashbucklers. Perhaps this should be made more clear at the top of the article: Looking for SOFTWARE PIRACY?...

156.98.171.81 23:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)darrel 01/03/2007

Software piracy is a biased/disputed term, and not the legal name for the activity. The Piracy disambig should be enough. falsedef 06:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Treasure maps

Over at the Treasure map article, I have been working hard to expand it. Several reliable references claim that no pirate treasure maps exist, but I'm not so sure anymore. I don't know how closely watched the article is, but it seems like an important one. While that article is shaping up to not focus solely on pirate treasure maps, those really seem to be where most of the interest lies. Do any pirate aficionados know of any real cases of pirate treasure maps? The Captain Kidd map and other maps about Oak Island come to mind, but it's hard to cut through the garbage and know what is real, and what is bogus. Some of the new information on the Treasure map article might also do well in the main pirate article. PMHauge 04:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Terrorism and piracy

Blowing up a ship with another ship (loaded with explosives) has little do with piracy, unless hijacking is included. Please clarify terrorist acts with their relevance to piracy (e.g. robbery, hijacking, boarding, etc.) before re-adding cases. falsedef 05:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, today the US Navy considers pirates and terrorists to be the same. Therefore, instances os maritime terrorism would fall under piracy. (Nick31091 20:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC))

I believe they can consider pirates to be terrorists, but terrorists aren't necessarily pirates. This article treats them differently (from navy.mil):

"Because piracy is frequent in Southeast Asia, terrorists have found it an attractive cover for maritime terrorism. Though the motives of pirates and terrorists are different (the former pursues economic gains while the latter advances political objectives),4 terrorists could adopt pirate tactics of stealing a ship, which they could then blow up or ram into another vessel or a port facility, to sow fear." -"MARITIME TERRORISM IN SOUTHEAST ASIA"

falsedef 04:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Etymology

Where does this article get its etymology of the word "pirate"? Online Etymology Dictionary derives it quite differently, but from the same Greek root. According to that site, peirates is from the verb peiran, meaning to attack. That makes a LOT more sense than the explanation given here. Chalkieperfect 00:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Cite your source and add the information to the article. It sounds good to me. PMHauge 15:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I am a physcologist that works with married couples. Never ever forget that no matter what pirates stole, love is the greatest treasure ever found.

Please add the link to Ido Wikipedia

io:Pirateso Thank you, João Xavier, user of Ido Wikipedia.

POV because of missing references

Because we are missing references this article reads more like a historic story and can be seen as a possible POV. Try working on more sources. --CyclePat 20:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Origin of "freebooter"

My Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary (10th ed.) supports the current article's derivation of freebooter from Dutch "vrijbuiter," meaning a taker of free booty. However, Angus Konstam's Pirates: 1660-1730 says that the term derives from "fly-boat" (French flibotes), a popular vessel of French pirates and privateers.

Is there a consensus on this point? Or should we include both etymologies in the article? --Pirate Dan 13:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

History of Piracy : Piracy in the Caribbean

Sorry, to sound odd, but to me it seems that the following part really doesn't fit in this section, and is more just an attempt to laud a local hero/legend. I just didn't feel comfortable outright deleting it, tho. The portion I am refering to I have copied below:

One of the later famous pirates of the Caribbean was Roberto Cofresí Ramirez de Arellano (1791-1825). He was put to death for his crimes in Puerto Rico at the Castle of San Felipe del Morro. His romantic legend inspires plays and songs on the island.

Thanach 14:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)