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Teilhard Frost

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WP:BLP of a musician, not properly sourced as passing WP:NMUSIC. As always, musicians are not "inherently" notable enough for articles just because they and their music exist -- but existence is the only notability claim being attempted here, and the sourcing isn't getting him over WP:GNG: two of the four footnotes are primary sources that don't count as support for notability at all, a third comes from a limited circulation special-interest magazine that looks suspiciously more like a WordPress blog than a GNG-worthy publication of record, and the only one that comes from a clearly GNG-worthy media outlet is a single newspaper piece announcing a private house concert -- but that doesn't satisfy NMUSIC's touring criterion in and of itself, because the subject is from Manitoulin Island and the house concert was in Sudbury, which hardly consitutes evidence of a large-scale national tour. (That's like saying that a musician had passed the national tour criterion by playing a small venue in New York City while personally living in Newark.)
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have much, much more than just one piece of "almost-local guy does stuff" in one closely-adjacent-to-hometown newspaper for coverage. Bearcat (talk) 12:01, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 12:01, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

While it's good to push back on this to ensure someone is notable, this guy is a real deal professional musician. Lots of secondary sources to support his notability, but keep in mind that this is a music genre that generally does not get much mainstream media attention. I'll work on adding content when I have time and I think it will be clearer to you. Mr. Mephistopheles (talk) 18:27, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 *<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Bands and musicians|Bands and musicians]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Canada|Canada]]. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 12:01, 5 October 2023 (UTC)</small>
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+:While it's good to push back on this to ensure someone is notable, this guy is a real deal professional musician. Lots of secondary sources to support his notability, but keep in mind that this is a music genre that generally does not get much mainstream media attention. I'll work on adding content when I have time and I think it will be clearer to you. [[User:Mr. Mephistopheles|Mr. Mephistopheles]] ([[User talk:Mr. Mephistopheles|talk]]) 18:27, 15 October 2023 (UTC)