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Wiki Loves Pride 2017[edit]

You are invited to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects throughout the month of June as part of the fourth annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign. Feel free to add new and expanded content on the project's Results page. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:59, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Coal Glen, North Carolina[edit]

We have a problem.

You redirected Coal Glen to the wrong article. Fortunately, when I was in the process of creating the article all over again because of tomorrow's big event, I noticed that it said the event was taking place at Farmville Church. Uh-oh. So there were not two towns called Coal Glen, North Carolina. There are, in fact, two Farmvilles.

I should probably move the article, since you argued that it should be called by the community's current name.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:02, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of The Business Network[edit]

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Can't locate sources to indicate this would pass WP:GNG.

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Ugh, sorry for templating you, but I appreciate you taking a look at the PROD and being cool about it. I don't know that I've ever seen a creator endorse a PROD, so that was neat :) ♠PMC(talk) 03:29, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

AFD question[edit]

I nominated Barel for deletion. It was about a village in India whose existence could not be verified. There were several Delete votes, and then the content was changed to a different village in a different state in India that is known to exist. Now there are several Keep votes, and obviously an article on this village can/should exist. This is a bit unusual since the subject/content of the article completely changed during the course of the AFD. From an Admin perspective, should I withdraw at this point. Or is it more proper to rollback the changes (saving the current version as a draft), let the article get deleted, and then recreate from the draft. Does it matter? Any edit-history issues to consider? MB 23:03, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

OK, I've marked it as withdraw. What about the talk page? It will have a record of the AFD, and a couple of other entries pertaining to the "old" Kashmir article. Those really have nothing to do with the "new" UP article. I don't really feel strongly about removing the "old" stuff from the edit history, but "old" talk page stuff should go. Is it proper to delete this from the talk page, or should I just add a entry to clarify that earlier entries are not applicable to the current article. This is why I was thinking it would be cleaner to delete and start over. Would a temporary delete/restore that you mentioned take care of this? MB 14:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Quebec Connection for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Quebec Connection is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quebec Connection until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. —Anne Delong (talk) 11:17, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Can you please move the page to Emma Little Pengelly — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katie960 (talkcontribs) 17:19, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of Red Tories[edit]

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completely unsourced, appears to be original research, some members of this list deny they are red tory

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St Charles College[edit]

You seem very familiar with article involving Sudbury so perhaps you are there. As for the NPOV on SCC, you might not get a reliable source unless you care to go through the microfilm at the library and also can get minutes of the school board meetings. The change to co-ed was massively protested with student walk-outs and in-school protests, despite having a reserve Brigadier General as the principal. It was nasty. I went out to Garson and took the picture of the entrance because even in early April 1993 there was talk of the big change which did happen. I am not in the mood to check the page history to see when someone swapped in a picture of the Hawthorne Drive building but mine was there for a while. There were also the parents' protests for moving the Catholic boys' school to beside the strip club. That is the part most people remember. There were a few guys who then were in grade 12 on the bus who were for the changes because by that September they would be 19 and thus able to go to the strip club for lunch. The busing for SCC and Marymount had common stops in the outlying towns and points of transfer where two buses would meet so for a bit in the morning I was on the same bus as some of those guys who favoured the changes. Northern Life's .pdf archive comes up a decade short of having anything on the internet for this so one would need to find physical off-line archived sources. Such sources do exist or at least did in 1993. delirious & lost~hugs~ 07:08, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Request on 15:20:31, 16 June 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Struttinmystuff[edit]


Thanks for reviewing the Mark_Sutcliffe_(author). I'm not sure I'm clear on why it was rejected. When I select the Mark_Sutcliffe_(author) link that you shared it leads to nothing. Perhaps this is page you meant to refer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sutcliffe_(Ottawa). The article I submitted is far more comprehensive. What do you recommend I do? Add my article content to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sutcliffe_(Ottawa) ?

Thanks, LisaStruttinmystuff (talk) 15:20, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Dave Chalk (entrepreneur)[edit]

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The article Dave Chalk (entrepreneur) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

i think this person is not notable WP:BIO

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09:21:00, 19 June 2017 review of submission by NeenKaler[edit]



Hi Bearcat,

Thank you for taking the time to review my first full submission. Apologies for it not being up to scratch - I'm still learning :) I hope you can help with a few queries over why the Userbenchmark submission was declined.

Firstly, you made a comment that many of the sources linked were glancing name references. The ZDnet and Sapphire Nation articles (section 4 of this article is dedicated to UserBenchmark - so not such a small reference) specifically and with reasonable depth, illustrate to me that professional PC users recommend Userbenchmark. I would like to understand better why this doesn't indicate notoriety.

Secondly, I can see that there are many more online software reviews of Userbenchmark, similar to Softpedia e.g. http://userbenchmark.findmysoft.com/. Would you reccommend that I add more of these?

And lastly, personally, I use and love this website and was surprised that there was no Wiki article on the topic yet. I know that a large proportion of the PC Master Race Reddit community also use and write about this site on Reddit. And I'm not alone if the Alexa website rankings are anything to go by: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/userbenchmark.com where Userbenchmark is currently ranked at 4716th globally and 2624th in the US. I was wondering if you recommended any way to incorporate this info into the Wiki article?

Once again, thanks for your time. And I look forward to hearing from you.

Legacy, Calgary[edit]

Ran across this article today. Much of it is highly promotional, peppered with marketing talk. My first thought was take it to AFD as a NN neighborhood that could be mentioned in Calgary, but shouldn't have it's own article. But then I saw the Navbox at the bottom with probably 150+ Calgary neighborhoods each with their own article. The few I looked at only had primary sources. So it seems this is another case where notability is ignored. I think I will just cut out the promotional parts (most of the article) and move on. Any comment? MB 03:42, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Many of the articles on Calgary neighborhoods are very short and contain just a few paragraphs - boundaries, census data, schools Westgate, Calgary as an example. I would say nothing in this article makes Westgate notable, but it's not promotional either like Legacy, Calgary. Since there are editors who believe there should be an article on EVERY neighborhood in Calgary, Legacy could be cleaned-up to mirror Westgate. This would make Calgary neighborhoods consistent, each having at least a short article (even if they all aren't truly notable). Is that better than deletion. MB 15:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I nominated two more Calgary neighborhoods, and there were shortly claims of "consensus" that all neighborhoods of Calgary can have articles. I tried to delete a couple articles on US college sports arenas, and they were kept based not on notability, but on claims that all US Division II football stadiums were notable by consensus. There seem to be areas were editors interested in a subject (US college football, large Canadian cities, etc.) establish local inclusionist interpretations of notability. I think the results at AFD get influenced as much by attendance as by policy. I noticed lots of editors showed up to argue the football stadiums were notable, but no one argued to keep a performing arts facility that, in my judgment, had as much coverage as the stadiums. MB 21:57, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Lakeshore Road article deletion nomination[edit]

I see you nominated the Lakeshore Road article for deletion. Why? Lakeshore Road is part of Ontario Highway 2, but it's an historically significant street in its own right. There is a description of former streetcar service, for instance; material which is definitely beyond the scope of the generic highway article.

PS: Clicking the Talk page links to the Ontario Highway 2 article, not any talk page for the article. If the article is not deleted, how could I fix that?

Transportfan70 Transportfan70 (talk) 15:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Tinsel Korey[edit]

Hi Bearcat, I cannot edit the article titled "Tinsel Korey" because of an indefinite protection. On the Tinsel Korey article there is a category it says "Category:Actresses from Ontario". Because actress Tinsel Korey was born in Toronto, Ontario. Could you go to the Tinsel Korey article and change the category from "Category:Actresses from Ontario" to "Category:Actresses from Toronto" cause of Tinsel Korey was born in Toronto, Ontario and an indefinite protection. If you can do that that would be great. Thanks for your editing assistance. 2001:569:70DD:7500:39EA:19D8:DF90:EF4D (talk) 19:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Category:Women's organizations by country has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Women's organizations by country, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Tim! (talk) 09:35, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on[edit]

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on (2 RfCs, actually, one less than six months ago and another a year ago). The new RfC is at:

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Allow private schools to be characterized as non-affiliated as well as religious, in infobox?

Specifically, it asks that "religion = none" be allowed in the infobox.

The first RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was "unambiguously in favour of omitting the parameter altogether for 'none' " and despite the RfC title, additionally found that "There's no obvious reason why this would not apply to historical or fictional characters, institutions etc.", and that nonreligions listed in the religion entry should be removed when found "in any article".

The second RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was that the "in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the Religion= parameter of the infobox.".

Note: I am informing everyone who commented on the above RfCs, whether they supported or opposed the final consensus. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:22, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Cheri DiNovo[edit]

Hi there. Having been seven years since the issue with persistent vandalism at Cheri DiNovo, I'm wondering if the page and its talk page would be able to be unprotected. I'm currently unable to even request an edit. Thanks, 142.160.131.202 (talk) 05:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

With all due respect, Bearcat, why were you willing to reply to others but not to me? 142.160.131.202 (talk) 21:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Request on 08:45:47, 26 June 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by NeenKaler[edit]


Thanks for the advice Bearcat! I understand better now :) I will endeavor to reference more sources where UserBenchmark is the subject. Kind regards, NeenKaler (talk) 08:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)


NeenKaler (talk) 08:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Cheri DiNovo[edit]

You protected it in 2013. I noticed at RfPP that someone was requesting a change. I looked and saw the talk page is protected and that's why the IP had to go to RfPP. Is it time to consider unprotection? Enigmamsg 20:26, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

I too would like to hear your answer, but the page at User:Natalie Erin/Cheri DiNovo vandal may suggest some reasons against lifting. EdJohnston (talk) 03:47, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Ed, Bearcat replied at my talk page. Enigmamsg 16:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)