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:::::::Ok. I am trying to address the issues you referenced [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFemale&type=revision&diff=1099793468&oldid=1099789007 here]. [[User:Kolya Butternut|Kolya Butternut]] ([[User talk:Kolya Butternut|talk]]) 17:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC) |
:::::::Ok. I am trying to address the issues you referenced [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFemale&type=revision&diff=1099793468&oldid=1099789007 here]. [[User:Kolya Butternut|Kolya Butternut]] ([[User talk:Kolya Butternut|talk]]) 17:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::::There's also not going to be consensus to wikilink female to a subsection that doesn't define female sex. It's unnecessary. The "issues" mentioned there are largely from people who are complaining about trans women and aren't going to be stopped by a wikilink because the point is to troll. <span style="font-family:Palatino">[[User:Crossroads|'''Crossroads''']]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Crossroads|-talk-]]</sup> 20:43, 5 August 2022 (UTC) |
::::::::There's also not going to be consensus to wikilink female to a subsection that doesn't define female sex. It's unnecessary. The "issues" mentioned there are largely from people who are complaining about trans women and aren't going to be stopped by a wikilink because the point is to troll. <span style="font-family:Palatino">[[User:Crossroads|'''Crossroads''']]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Crossroads|-talk-]]</sup> 20:43, 5 August 2022 (UTC) |
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{{Female education|state=Magda Rastra}} [[Special:Contributions/37.63.4.145|37.63.4.145]] ([[User talk:37.63.4.145|talk]]) 02:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Proposed human subsection
I had added Female#Human female (reverted by Newimpartial). I believe this would have been a good place for "female" to link to from the lead sentence of Woman. Kolya Butternut (talk) 11:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- As I have stated before in response to CaptainEek, I disagree. The categorical distinction between female gender and female as a biological term logically comes first, and then the species divisions fall within the discussion of biology. Newimpartial (talk) 12:26, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- "Female" is not a gender. "Female" is a sex. The corresponding gender is "feminine".Fahrenheit666 (talk) 21:16, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about that, because that categorical distinction is made at Female (disambiguation). This article is mostly about sex not gender. Kolya Butternut (talk) 14:37, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- I am aware of that. But the long-term solution depends on whether or not we end up with a Female (gender) as an article in main space, so I'd rather not inscribe the species split at the top level of this article until we know what the scope of this article will be, long term. Right now, we have a number of editors arguing that DUE gender-related content belongs here, and preemptively including that within a subsection that is mostly about female sex in humans seems, errr, suboptimal. Newimpartial (talk) 15:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- There's no way we're going to get consensus to wikilink
adult female human
to Female (gender), so I'm not sure how that potential new article is relevant. The way I see it is that we simply need somewhere forfemale
to link to that clearly defines the word as it applies to humans so we can spoon-feed that information to readers. Kolya Butternut (talk) 15:37, 5 August 2022 (UTC)- I have not been talking about where a particular wikink should go; I am talking about the structure of thus article. To digress about the wikilink, I don't know that
female
(from Woman) needs to be wikilinked at all, much less that a section needs to be created to receive the link. Newimpartial (talk) 15:42, 5 August 2022 (UTC)- Ok. I am trying to address the issues you referenced here. Kolya Butternut (talk) 17:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- There's also not going to be consensus to wikilink female to a subsection that doesn't define female sex. It's unnecessary. The "issues" mentioned there are largely from people who are complaining about trans women and aren't going to be stopped by a wikilink because the point is to troll. Crossroads -talk- 20:43, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ok. I am trying to address the issues you referenced here. Kolya Butternut (talk) 17:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- I have not been talking about where a particular wikink should go; I am talking about the structure of thus article. To digress about the wikilink, I don't know that
- There's no way we're going to get consensus to wikilink
- I am aware of that. But the long-term solution depends on whether or not we end up with a Female (gender) as an article in main space, so I'd rather not inscribe the species split at the top level of this article until we know what the scope of this article will be, long term. Right now, we have a number of editors arguing that DUE gender-related content belongs here, and preemptively including that within a subsection that is mostly about female sex in humans seems, errr, suboptimal. Newimpartial (talk) 15:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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