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Your submission at Articles for creation: Decentralized art (May 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chaotic Enby was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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reliable
secondary
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The comment the reviewer left was:

Some sources (like Medium or Coindesk) are not considered reliable. Also, it's not clear that all sources even talk about the same thing, like the 2008 New York Magazine source probably doesn't mean bitcoin and NFTs when saying "decentralized art movement".

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Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 10:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Chaotic Enby thank you for the quick review, and reading through the sources. I was not aware that Medium and Coindesk are not considered reliable. They have both been removed and will submit this revision asap.

Regarding your note about the "same thing” with NY Magazine , I made an edit that clarifies this as an early notation of street art being a type of decentralized art. I agree, it was not likely that the author intended to equate decentralized art with bitcoin or NFT technology at this time.

It may be helpful in this respect to clarify decentralized art in context of art history. That is, decentralized art is an art form, not a technology or set of technologies per se. In other words, Bitcoin / NFTs / blockchain technologies are now an inherent part of the art form, but were not deterministic elements informing its early concept and practice, specifically artists operating independently and outside centralized control of the art world, using pre-digital methods and tools.

Some examples of this: Mail art, exemplified in the work of Ray Johnson and the New York Correspondence School. Graffiti and Street Art. Seth Siegelaub's work with The Artist's Contract. The work and efforts of the Art Workers' Coalition, and more.

As a parallel, provenance, the tracking of art sales and ownership, is a longstanding practice in the art world, usually handled by art dealers, auction houses, and galleries, using analog technology like paper, snail mail, certification via embossed stamps, and so on.

Blockchain technology enabled a decentralized, coded, automated, transparent way to track provenance for artwork placed on this type of ledger, but provenance as a practice didn't require blockchain technology to exist.

I hope this reply is helpful. Maybe it's too much detail and I misunderstand your input about the NY Magazine source and intention. In any case, your comment helped show need for clarity and revisions along these lines, thanks. Soulincode (talk) 18:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Soulincode! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 10:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+:Hello @[[User:Chaotic Enby|Chaotic Enby]] thank you for the quick review, and reading through the sources. I was not aware that Medium and Coindesk are not considered reliable. They have both been removed and will submit this revision asap.
+:Regarding your note about the "same thing” with NY Magazine , I made an edit that clarifies this as an early notation of [[street art]] being a type of decentralized art. I agree, it was not likely that the author intended to equate decentralized art with bitcoin or NFT technology at this time.
+:It may be helpful in this respect to clarify decentralized art in context of art history. That is, decentralized art is an art form, not a technology or set of technologies per se. In other words, Bitcoin / NFTs / blockchain technologies are now an inherent part of the art form, but were not deterministic elements informing its early concept and practice, specifically artists operating independently and outside centralized control of the art world, using pre-digital methods and tools.
+:Some examples of this: [[Mail art]], exemplified in the work of [[Ray Johnson]] and the New York Correspondence School. [[Graffiti]] and [[Street art|Street Art]]. [[Seth Siegelaub]]'s work with [[The Artist's Reserved Rights Transfer and Sale Agreement|The Artist's Contract]]. The work and efforts of the [[Art Workers' Coalition]], and more.
+:As a parallel, [[provenance]], the tracking of art sales and ownership, is a longstanding practice in the art world, usually handled by art dealers, auction houses, and galleries, using analog technology like paper, snail mail, certification via embossed stamps, and so on.
+:Blockchain technology enabled a decentralized, coded, automated, transparent way to track provenance for artwork placed on this type of ledger, but provenance as a practice didn't require blockchain technology to exist.
+:I hope this reply is helpful. Maybe it's too much detail and I misunderstand your input about the NY Magazine source and intention. In any case, your comment helped show need for clarity and revisions along these lines, thanks. [[User:Soulincode|Soulincode]] ([[User talk:Soulincode#top|talk]]) 18:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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