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Can anyone explain why the section [[Diacritic#Diacritics that do not produce new letters]] exists? Is there any reason not to merge it into [[Diacritic#Languages with letters containing diacritics]]? As far as I know (which is not very far at all) the only case of where a letter+diacritic is considered unique and distinct for sort order, is {{char|ñ}} in Spanish (as is or was {{serif|{{char|ll}}}}). If we really need to go into that detail (and I question that too), surely the section should be about those few exceptions. [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC) |
Can anyone explain why the section [[Diacritic#Diacritics that do not produce new letters]] exists? Is there any reason not to merge it into [[Diacritic#Languages with letters containing diacritics]]? As far as I know (which is not very far at all) the only case of where a letter+diacritic is considered unique and distinct for sort order, is {{char|ñ}} in Spanish (as is or was {{serif|{{char|ll}}}}). If we really need to go into that detail (and I question that too), surely the section should be about those few exceptions. [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Choice of base letter : bold, revert, discuss == |
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Per [[WP:BRD]], I reverted a bold edit by [[user:2601:c6:d200:e9b0:6136:61c3:9ee3:bb8c ]]. Per [[WP:BRD]], the change is suspended pending debate. |
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The long-standing pre-existing arrangement was to use the letter {{angbr|a}} as base letter as much as possible. If it is to be changed, a discussion and consensus is needed. The dispute is whether to use the same base letter so that the emphasis is on the diacritic, or to choose a letter which "best" (?) displays the diacritic in use. |
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(The section deals with [[precomposed character]]s, so the option to use the generic place-holder symbol {{unichar|25CC}} is not really relevant{{snd}} and would require a lot more work to use [[combining diacritic]]s.) |
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The debate is now open. [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 15:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC) |
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List Diacritics in Unicode
I have added § Diacritics in Unicode: {{Diacritics in Unicode}} (224 rows).
Not (yet) used: {{Diacritics in Unicode/non-Latin}}. -DePiep (talk) 07:01, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Reason to use serif with dotted circle
The short explanation of why has been necessary to use span style="font-family: serif"
in each case where the diacritic is being demonstrated against a dotted circle (as "neutral grey background") is to mitigate a rendering limitation in Android (as of v13), that its default sans font fails to render "dotted circle + diacritic", so visitors just get a meaningless (to most) [X] mark.
For the longer explanation, see template talk:Unichar#Combining diacritics are displaying as tofu on Android - fault may be in cwith= handling?. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:19, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Diacritics that do not produce new letters v Languages with letters containing diacritics
Can anyone explain why the section Diacritic#Diacritics that do not produce new letters exists? Is there any reason not to merge it into Diacritic#Languages with letters containing diacritics? As far as I know (which is not very far at all) the only case of where a letter+diacritic is considered unique and distinct for sort order, is ñ in Spanish (as is or was ll). If we really need to go into that detail (and I question that too), surely the section should be about those few exceptions. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Choice of base letter : bold, revert, discuss
Per WP:BRD, I reverted a bold edit by user:2601:c6:d200:e9b0:6136:61c3:9ee3:bb8c . Per WP:BRD, the change is suspended pending debate.
The long-standing pre-existing arrangement was to use the letter ⟨a⟩ as base letter as much as possible. If it is to be changed, a discussion and consensus is needed. The dispute is whether to use the same base letter so that the emphasis is on the diacritic, or to choose a letter which "best" (?) displays the diacritic in use.
(The section deals with precomposed characters, so the option to use the generic place-holder symbol U+25CC ◌ DOTTED CIRCLE is not really relevant – and would require a lot more work to use combining diacritics.)
The debate is now open. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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