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St. James Armenian Church

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Unsourced article with no indication of notability. A BEFORE search finds nothing but run-of-the-mill local coverage of the church, and it's not a registered historic building. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture, Religion, Armenia, and Massachusetts. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and improve- I think with a bit of time and dedication the article can be improved and expanded. A simple google search yielded 184,000 results. For an almost 100 year old church, they still seem to be quite active on their website and social platforms and they appear to engage with the wider community through planning various events. Archives908 (talk) 13:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article is about a "church located in Watertown, Massachusetts" but a search shows that there are churches of this name/denomination throughout the US. Were there an article on the denomination (with appropriate sources) this might stand, but I don't see anything that would make this one location on its own worthy of an article. Lamona (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Ref WP:NCHURCH, I don't see that WP:GNG is met (per WP:AUD, local coverage is generally insufficient to establish notability, and announcements of events at the church are both trivial and fail INDEPENDENT). Mentioned at Watertown, Massachusetts -- the city is quite an Armenian hub -- but given that the name is hardly unique, redirection is not a suitable outcome (and if it were to be kept it should move as it really doesn't meet WP:PRIMARYTOPIC). In theory could be turned into a DAB, but that's running up against WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Briefest coverage of St James and St Stephens and any other Armenian churches at Watertown, Massachusetts#Armenian population is probably ok. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 04:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::'''Keep and improve'''- I think with a bit of time and dedication the article can be improved and expanded. A simple google search yielded 184,000 results. For an almost 100 year old church, they still seem to be quite active on their website and social platforms and they appear to engage with the wider community through planning various events. [[User:Archives908|Archives908]] ([[User talk:Archives908|talk]]) 13:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' The article is about a "church located in Watertown, Massachusetts" but a search shows that there are churches of this name/denomination throughout the US. Were there an article on the denomination (with appropriate sources) this might stand, but I don't see anything that would make this one location on its own worthy of an article. [[User:Lamona|Lamona]] ([[User talk:Lamona|talk]]) 22:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''': Ref [[WP:NCHURCH]], I don't see that [[WP:GNG]] is met (per [[WP:AUD]], local coverage is generally insufficient to establish notability, and announcements of events at the church are both trivial and fail INDEPENDENT). Mentioned at [[Watertown, Massachusetts]] -- the city is quite an Armenian hub -- but given that the name is hardly unique, redirection is not a suitable outcome (and if it were to be kept it should move as it really doesn't meet [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]). In theory could be turned into a DAB, but that's running up against [[WP:NOTDIRECTORY]]. ''Briefest'' coverage of St James and St Stephens and any other Armenian churches at [[Watertown, Massachusetts#Armenian population]] is probably ok. <span style="font-size: 80%;color:blue"><sup>~</sup>[[User:Hydronium Hydroxide|Hydronium<sup>~</sup>Hydroxide]]<sup>~[[User talk:Hydronium Hydroxide|(Talk)]]~</sup></span> 04:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)