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:::::You still don't understand what I am saying. I am reporting that the message that a non-EC user sees when they visit a page like https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides&action=edit is wrong according to the new policy. You should fix it if you can or ask someone else and you wouldn't have to make so many reverts. [[User:AndyBloch|AndyBloch]] ([[User talk:AndyBloch#top|talk]]) 10:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::You still don't understand what I am saying. I am reporting that the message that a non-EC user sees when they visit a page like https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides&action=edit is wrong according to the new policy. You should fix it if you can or ask someone else and you wouldn't have to make so many reverts. [[User:AndyBloch|AndyBloch]] ([[User talk:AndyBloch#top|talk]]) 10:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::I am making reverts because you are not complying with the restrictions, simple as that. When you open that link does it show a big yellow box at the top? [[User:Selfstudier|Selfstudier]] ([[User talk:Selfstudier|talk]]) 10:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::I am making reverts because you are not complying with the restrictions, simple as that. When you open that link does it show a big yellow box at the top? [[User:Selfstudier|Selfstudier]] ([[User talk:Selfstudier|talk]]) 10:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Have you tried to open the link in a private window, where you are not logged in? This is what it says ('''below''' this text is the yellow box, which I have to scroll to see):
:::::::View source for List of genocides
:::::::* [[List of genocides|Article]]
:::::::* [[Talk:List of genocides|Talk]]
:::::::* [[List of genocides|Read]]
:::::::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides&action=edit View source]
:::::::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides&action=history View history]
:::::::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides&action=unwatch Unwatch]
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:::::::← [[List of genocides]]
:::::::You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
:::::::This page is currently [[Wikipedia:Protection policy#Arbitration 30/500 protection|protected]] so that only [[Wikipedia:User access levels#Extended confirmed users|extended confirmed users]] and [[Wikipedia:Administrators|administrators]] can edit it.
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:::::::* [[Talk:List of genocides|Discuss this page]] with others.
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:::::::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AList_of_genocides&preload=Template%3ASubmit+an+edit+request%2Fpreload&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Template%3AEdit+extended-protected%2Feditintro&preloadtitle=Extended-confirmed-protected+edit+request+on+13+July+2024&preloadparams%5B%5D=edit+extended-protected&preloadparams%5B%5D=List+of+genocides Submit an edit request]
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Re: Nice job keeping up with the WSOP

No problem. Thanks, and welcome to Wikipedia. Essexmutant 07:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2007 HORSE

Hey Andy- do you have access to a Hole Card Cam'ed unedited version of your monumental 50K HORSE battle with Chip? I would pay $$ for that... --LoverOfArt 23:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't. I'd pay money for it too! --AndyBloch 16:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Lederer

Didn't realize you were the real Andy Bloch. Clearly you would know whether or not Howard Lederer is Jewish, sorry about that DegenFarang (talk) 22:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. His father is Jewish (so it's understandable that someone might think he was Jewish) but his mother wasn't and he wasn't brought up Jewish. Thus, he wouldn't be considered Jewish under most of the tests used to determine who is a jew. --AndyBloch 01:50, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm going to have to disagree with you then and change it back. I have credible information from Andy Bloch that his mother is Jewish ;). As per the link you just gave me, a person is a jew by birth, as one of the methods. Very similar to Halle Berry being considered African American even though she had one white parent and was raised by that parent and grew up around all white people...she is still african-american, and Howard Lederer is still Jewish. DegenFarang (talk) 07:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Completely unrelated to Wikipedia

Please excuse my fangasm, I would just like to say hello to somebody I very strongly respect and I just can't pass up the opportunity to do so! I hope everything is treating you well and I'm wishing you the best. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 12:50, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comment and for all your contributions to Wikipedia! AndyBloch 13:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
No worries at all :) JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 13:38, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please also note that, per WP:ARBECR, you are limited to the making of edit requests only. Thank you. Selfstudier (talk) 11:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I wasn't aware of the change to Wikipedia:ARBECR on November 11.
I'm not sure what is more ridiculous, that I can not take part in the conversation on the talk page (while someone who joined 30 days ago and spammed 500 edits can), or that people think that 32 out of 81 votes counts as a majority or some form of consensus and should win just because the other votes were split between two very similar options. AndyBloch (talk) 12:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you are wondering why non-EC users try to edit EC talk pages, it's because the updated rule is not clear and wording on other wikipedia pages/templates have not been changed to reflect the new wording. If a non-EC user clicks on View Source on a ECP page, they see a message which includes this:
What can I do?
If they are actually not allowed to discuss on the talk page, this message should be changed. AndyBloch (talk) 19:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are different issues. First is Arbpia restrictions in CT, that's the notices above. Editors usually get these notices if they edit in the topic area. On affected pages, you can usually also see a big box on the talk page and another one on the edit page explaining those restrictions. Then there is protection but that is not automatically applied to pages, it usually is applied following some sort of disruption.
If then, editors still edit despite these explanations, edits that are not edit requests will typically get reverted per WP:ARBECR and if there repeated breaches after that, a block is likely.
Hth. Selfstudier (talk) 21:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My last comment is saying that the box on the edit page is wrong. It says "What can I do? •Discuss this page with others." AndyBloch (talk) 05:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Open this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides&action=edit in a private/incognito window and you'll see what I mean. AndyBloch (talk) 05:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added the partial Arbpia talk/edit notices at that article. As I indicated above, sometimes those notices can be missing but the Arbpia restrictions still apply "broadly construed", and once the awareness notices above have been given, then there is not really any longer an excuse for editing against the restrictions. Selfstudier (talk) 07:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I have now removed your comments at RSN, really is the last time I am going to explain this, you are limited to filing edit requests only, nothing else. Meaning you cannot participate in any discussions either. Selfstudier (talk) 09:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't you think your amended restrictions are a bit draconian? Censorship provisions should be narrowly, not broadly, construed. Of course, Wikipedia as a semi-private entity can make whatever rules it wants, but if it wants to be considered part of the public sphere, it should follow free speech principles on its talk pages. AndyBloch (talk) 10:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You still don't understand what I am saying. I am reporting that the message that a non-EC user sees when they visit a page like https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides&action=edit is wrong according to the new policy. You should fix it if you can or ask someone else and you wouldn't have to make so many reverts. AndyBloch (talk) 10:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am making reverts because you are not complying with the restrictions, simple as that. When you open that link does it show a big yellow box at the top? Selfstudier (talk) 10:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have you tried to open the link in a private window, where you are not logged in? This is what it says (below this text is the yellow box, which I have to scroll to see):
View source for List of genocides
List of genocides
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
This page is currently protected so that only extended confirmed users and administrators can edit it.
Why is the page protected?
  • While most articles can be edited by anyone, extended confirmed protection is sometimes necessary to prevent disruptive editing on controversial pages.
  • The reason for protection can be found in the protection log. If there are no relevant entries in the protection log, the page may have been moved after being protected.
What can I do?
AndyBloch (talk) 10:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]