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[[File:833 cents scale in 36-tet on C one cycle.png|350px|thumb|833 cents scale in 36-tet notation, with slurs indicating a golden ratio]]
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The '''833 cents scale''' is a [[musical tuning]] and [[scale (music)|scale]] proposed by [[Heinz Bohlen]]{{clarify|date=November 2018|reason=Later the article claims that other theorists thought of the idea earlier, so what date did Bohlen propose it? The webarchive has a [https://web.archive.org/web/20110722110611/http://www.huygens-fokker.org/bpsite/833cent.html capture] from 2011 that says, "Latest update: February 8, 2008".}} based on [[combination tone]]s, an [[interval (music)|interval]] of 833.09<!--833.090296356741--> [[cent (music)|cents]], and, coincidentally, the [[Fibonacci number|Fibonacci sequence]].<ref name="Experiment">Bohlen, Heinz (last updated 2012<!--The webarchive has a capture from 2011 that says, "Latest update: February 8, 2008".-->). "[http://www.huygens-fokker.org/bpsite/833cent.html An 833 Cents Scale: An experiment on harmony]", ''Huygens-Fokker.org''.</ref> The [[golden ratio]] is <math>\varphi = \frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2} = 1.6180339887\ldots.</math>, which as a musical interval is 833.09<!--833.0902014...--> cents ({{audio|Golden ratio on C.mid|Play}}). In the 833 cents scale this interval is taken as an alternative to the [[octave]] as the interval of [[octave-repeating scale|repetition]],<ref name="Xen">"[https://en.xen.wiki/w/833_Cent_Golden_Scale_(Bohlen) 833 Cent Golden Scale (Bohlen)]", ''Xenharmonic Wiki''.</ref> however the golden ratio is not regarded as an [[equivalence class (music)|equivalent]] interval (notes 833.09 cents apart are not "the same" in the 833 cents scale the way notes 1200 cents apart are in traditional tunings). Other music theorists such as [[Walter O'Connell]], in his 1993 "The Tonality of the Golden Section",<ref>O'Connell, Walter (1993). "[http://anaphoria.com/oconnell.pdf The Tonality of the Golden Section]", ''Anaphoria.com''.</ref> and [[Loren Temes]]{{citation needed|date=January 2020|reason=If Temes "created" this scale where and when did he publish his findings?}} appear to have also created this scale prior to Bohlen's discovery of it.
The '''833 cents scale''' is a [[musical tuning]] and [[scale (music)|scale]] proposed by [[Heinz Bohlen]]{{clarify|date=November 2018|reason=Later the article claims that other theorists thought of the idea earlier, so what date did Bohlen propose it? The webarchive has a [https://web.archive.org/web/20110722110611/http://www.huygens-fokker.org/bpsite/833cent.html capture] from 2011 that says, "Latest update: February 8, 2008".}} based on [[combination tone]]s, an [[interval (music)|interval]] of 833.09<!--833.090296356741--> [[cent (music)|cents]], and, coincidentally, the [[Fibonacci number|Fibonacci sequence]].<ref name="Experiment">Bohlen, Heinz (last updated 2012<!--The webarchive has a capture from 2011 that says, "Latest update: February 8, 2008".-->). "[http://www.huygens-fokker.org/bpsite/833cent.html An 833 Cents Scale: An experiment on harmony]", ''Huygens-Fokker.org''.</ref> The [[golden ratio]] is <math>\varphi = \frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2} = 1.6180339887\ldots.</math>, which as a musical interval is 833.09<!--833.0902014...--> cents ({{audio|Golden ratio on C.mid|Play}}). In the 833 cents scale this interval is taken as an alternative to the [[octave]] as the interval of [[octave-repeating scale|repetition]],<ref name="Xen">"[https://en.xen.wiki/w/833_Cent_Golden_Scale_(Bohlen) 833 Cent Golden Scale (Bohlen)]", ''Xenharmonic Wiki''.</ref> however the golden ratio is not regarded as an [[equivalence class (music)|equivalent]] interval (notes 833.09 cents apart are not "the same" in the 833 cents scale the way notes 1200 cents apart are in traditional tunings). Other music theorists such as [[Walter O'Connell]], in his 1993 "The Tonality of the Golden Section",<ref>O'Connell, Walter (1993). "[http://anaphoria.com/oconnell.pdf The Tonality of the Golden Section]", ''Anaphoria.com''.</ref> and Lorne Temes in 1970,<ref>Temes, Lorne, "[https://www.anaphoria.com/temes.pdf Golden Tones]", University of Toronto, 1970. ''Anaphoria.com''</ref> appear to have also created this scale prior to Bohlen's discovery of it.


==Derivation==
==Derivation==

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Line segments in the golden ratio ((A + B) / A = A / B = 1.618).
Stack of golden ratio (φ) intervals, measured in Hz ((11.09 + 6.854) ÷ 11.09 = 11.09 ÷ 6.854 = 1.618).
833 cents scale in 36-tet notation, with slurs indicating a golden ratio

The 833 cents scale is a musical tuning and scale proposed by Heinz Bohlen[clarification needed] based on combination tones, an interval of 833.09 cents, and, coincidentally, the Fibonacci sequence.[1] The golden ratio is , which as a musical interval is 833.09 cents (Play). In the 833 cents scale this interval is taken as an alternative to the octave as the interval of repetition,[2] however the golden ratio is not regarded as an equivalent interval (notes 833.09 cents apart are not "the same" in the 833 cents scale the way notes 1200 cents apart are in traditional tunings). Other music theorists such as Walter O'Connell, in his 1993 "The Tonality of the Golden Section",[3] and Lorne Temes in 1970,[4] appear to have also created this scale prior to Bohlen's discovery of it.

Derivation

Lattice with golden ratios on the unison (center), on the perfect fourth (left), and the perfect fifth (right)

Starting with any interval, take the interval produced by the highest original tone and the closest combination tone. Then do the same for that interval. These intervals "converge to a value close to 833 cents. That means nothing else than that for instance for an interval of 144:89 (833.11 cents) both the summation and the difference tone appear...again 833 cents distance from this interval".[1]

Base interval Closest combination
tone (ratio)
Closest combination
tone (cents)
2:1 3:2 701.955
3:2 5:3 884.359
5:3 8:5 813.686
8:5 13:8 840.528
13:8 21:13 830.253
21:13 34:21 834.175
34:21 55:34 832.676
55:34 89:55 833.248
89:55 144:89 833.030
144:89 233:144 833.113
233:144 377:233 833.081
377:233 610:377 833.094
...

For example, 220 Hz and 220 Hz (unison) produce combination tones at 0 and 440 Hz. 440 Hz is an octave above 220 Hz. 220 Hz and 440 Hz produce combination tones at 220 Hz and 660 Hz. 660 Hz is a perfect fifth (3:2) above 440 Hz, and produce combination tones at 220 Hz and 1,100 Hz. 1,100 Hz is a major sixth (5:3) above 660 Hz, and produce combination tones at 440 Hz and 1,760 Hz. 1100 Hz and 1760 Hz are a minor sixth (8:5), and so on. "It is by the way unimportant which interval we choose as a starting point for the above exercise; the result is always 833 cent."[1]

Once the interval of 833.09 cents is determined, a stack of them is produced:

Tone −5 −4 −3 −2 −1 0 1 2 3 4 5
Cents 634.55 267.64 1100.73 733.82 366.91 0 833.09 466.18 99.27 932.36 565.45
Ratio 1.443 1.167 1.889 1.528 1.236 1.000 1.618 1.309 1.059 1.713 1.386
Scale step 6 3 0 7 4 1 8 15

Two stacks are also produced on 3:2 and its inverse 4:3 to provide steps 2 and 5, creating a two dimensional lattice. Given that the golden ratio is an irrational number there are three infinite stacks of possible golden ratios which never return exactly back to the unison or octave. Scale step 5 is 597.32 cents and scale step -5 is 602.68 cents (5.37 cents apart).

Scale

Bohlen describes a symmetrical seven tone scale, with the pitches of steps 0, 1, 3, 4, & 6 derived from the stack of golden ratio intervals. Play

Scale step 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ...
Cents 00.00 99.27 235.77 366.91 466.18 597.32 733.82 833.09 ...
Step width 99.27 136.5 131.14 99.27 131.14 136.5 99.27 ...
Stacked tone 0 3 −1 2 −2 1 ...
Three stacks of 13 golden ratios on the unison, perfect fourth, and perfect fifth

This is comparable to the derivation of the major scale from a stack of perfect fifths (FCGDAEB = CDEFGAB). See: Generated collection.

The scale "contains a network of harmonic relationships with the property to match harmonic interval cycles of 833 cents."[5] Steps 2 and 5 were presumably chosen to fill in the gaps between what become steps 1 and 3 and 4 and 6 (267.64 cents). The value of step 2 (235.77) was chosen to create a perfect twelfth (compound perfect fifth) between steps 16 (235.77+833.09+833.09) and step 0, and once chosen determined the value of step 5 due to the symmetry of the scale. Step 10 and 0 form an octave. All notes 7 steps apart form the golden ratio with each other, for example 16 & 9 and 10 & 3.

The repetition of frequencies and the coincidence of higher steps with consonances such as the perfect fifth and octave may be seen (the step number of intervals that coincide with the stack of golden ratios are in bold, while the ratios of repeated intervals are in bold):

Step Ratio Ratio
(dec.)
Ratio
(cents)
Width
(cents)
Audio
0 1.0000 0 Play
99.27
1 44 1.0590 99.27 Play
136.50
2 33 1.1459 235.77 Play
131.14
3 22 1.2361 366.91 Play
99.27
4 32 1.3090 466.18 Play
131.14
5 3/3 1.4120 597.32 Play
136.50
6 43 1.5279 733.82 Play
99.27
7 (0) 2 1.6180 833.09 Play
99.27
8 (1) 54 1.7135 932.36 Play
136.50
9 (2) 32 1.8541 1,068.86 Play
131.14
10 (3) 1.0000 0 Play
99.27
11 (4) 44 1.0590 99.27 Play
131.14
12 (5) 6/4 1.1424 230.41 Play
136.50
13 (6) 22 1.2361 366.91 Play
99.27
14 (0) 32 1.3090 466.18 Play
99.27
15 (1) 68 1.3863 565.45 Play
136.50
16 (2) 32 1.5 701.96 Play
...

The scale contains .83333 × 12 steps per octave (≈10).[5] While ideally untempered, the scale may be approximated by 36 equal temperament, one advantage being that 36-TET includes traditional 12-TET.[2]

See

Sources

  1. ^ a b c Bohlen, Heinz (last updated 2012). "An 833 Cents Scale: An experiment on harmony", Huygens-Fokker.org.
  2. ^ a b c d e "833 Cent Golden Scale (Bohlen)", Xenharmonic Wiki.
  3. ^ O'Connell, Walter (1993). "The Tonality of the Golden Section", Anaphoria.com.
  4. ^ Temes, Lorne, "Golden Tones", University of Toronto, 1970. Anaphoria.com
  5. ^ a b Pareyon, Gabriel (2011). On Musical Self-Similarity, p.398. ISBN 9789525431322.