User talk:Mike Sorensen

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Binaural recording

It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Binaural recording. Please be careful not to remove content from Wikipedia without a valid reason, which you should specify in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. Take a look at our welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. -Quiddity 19:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

While I was writing on the talk page, to justifiy my edit, you rushed to conclusion and placed your comment. Please allow people some time to finish their edits. The comment is posted on the talk page.--Mike Sorensen 19:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok. I was just going through my watchlist and saw the removed section.

If you add a couple of words to the "edit summary" section (just above the "save page" button), that helps fellow editors determine what actions were intended. Eg for that edit, a summary like "removing POV content, see talk" would be perfect.

Here's a welcome template, containing an abundance of useful links and reading :) --Quiddity 01:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hi, could you please use edit summaries, especially if it is a nontrivial edit such as deleting sentences, adding a lot of content, or tagging an article for deletion? I'm referring to: proposed for deletion, nominated for deletion, but it actually holds for almost all your other edits as well. Han-Kwang 13:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Audio mastering

This article needs some work. It is a very popular subject for audio enthusiasts but the support for the information contained in this article is rather sketchy. Some info in the article is a common knowledge but many things cited there are just taken for granted and I frankly question the accuracy of this article but for the lack of resources I'm refraining from rewriting it. Since its creation almost 4 years ago this article doesn't have any references. So it is about time to take some initiative on this subject and from the lack of other volunteers it looks like it will be me. Real editors generally avoid adding references to this article because they end up being assaulted by spammers, but I think I can fend-off a few punches.

Looks like the first spammer launched his assault using a few suspected sock puppets or meta puppets: Evinatea, Jrod2, Skylark01, Louis, Hottrax, 96.224.3.55 but I'm holding my ground.--Mike Sorensen 03:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mike. I have been trying to figure out what the dispute is over at audio mastering. I've been communicating with Evinatea, but I would like to know your understanding of the situation. The talk page is fairly incomprehensible, but I gather there is some dispute about spam links, "artmastering", as well as accusations of sockpuppetry. Please give me your take on this. Thanks much, Fang Aili ^talk 17:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Fang Aili. Thank you for looking into it. Here is what I concluded:

• The accounts of Evinatea and user 162.83.209.26 English and162.83.209.26 Spanishand User:71.108.230.46 were all created at approximately the same time, all are single purpose accounts aimed to manipulate articles on Audio mastering and Music mastering. The edit patterns are very similar. Edits of Evinatea are meant either to promote his own company MusicMasteringOnline or to showcase him as authority on Audio mastering. Please compare contributions af these accounts. The accounts of Evinatea and User:71.108.230.46 are also used as "Good hand, bad hand" to fake credibility.

• Evinatea created a spam article MaximumDeliveryPotential (already deleted). This was an obvious spam to promote his business. Check his personal website MusicMasteringOnline that also talks about it.

• Music mastering article is also a spam designed to promote Evinatea website. Several other users complaint about this. This article have also been deleted--Mike Sorensen 20:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• He completely disrupted the Audio mastering talk page with his rants and endless edits to justify his spam and defend his position. Multiple other users also complined about his spam. Subsequently the disruption was removed and placed into his personal space User:Evinatea/Sockpuppetry.

• Evinatea engaged in blatantly offensive personal attack or a defamatory comment about a living person, Art Sayecki and other users including me. Comments are here [1]".

• As far as "artmastering" is concerned, I found an interview/article on a respected music website Link which talked about the subject so I re-included it in the Audio mastering page with a request for comments. I'm not attached to this article and I have never edited it before. I re-included an entry about "armastering" that was made some time ago by another editor. Though I decided it would be prudent to defended my edits and related links against a suspected spammer Evinatea, so hence my edits on the subject.

Hope it helps.--Mike Sorensen 19:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC) Comments updated, --Mike Sorensen 16:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I'm taking a break from this conflict for a day or two. I might post to WP:ANI about it later, because I have a hard time wrapping my head around this. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 20:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

My contributions

No Problem Fang Aili, as you see from the date of this post I also took a break. My contributions are always open for discussion and always have at least one reference (unless the subject-matter is widely known). In case of "artmastering" I also provided a reference and I will provide more if and when they become available. I hate this kind of bickering so I will keep my posts to minimum. --Mike Sorensen 12:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Mike, please keep contributing. Your edits are encyclopedic, and well, some people editing the pages are not up to that standard. Your recent edit to Audio mastering is a great example. John Cardinal 12:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you John, I occasionally visit music related pages that you edit and I see the great work that you are doing so your comment is very valuable to me.--Mike Sorensen 14:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion on sources for Audio Mastering article

Since the Audio mastering article has no sources to support it, I opened a discussion on potentially acceptable sources for this article. I'm beginning to regret it a little since now I'm being bombarded with spam and personal attacks but hopefully we will get something done and at the end it will be worth it. Please contribute, here is a link [2]
--Mike Sorensen 00:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

List of languages of Nigeria

I created this new page [3] to serve as a home for all the 521 languages of Nigeria and I moved the existing list of Nigerian languages from the main article Languages of Nigeria to this new page. Hopefully, at some point, we will get all the 521 languages listed with links to their own respective pages for each language. --Mike Sorensen 22:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Added dynamic sorting to theList of languages of Nigeria

This is my biggest edit to date. I just implemented dynamic sorting features, and filled the table with human population data pertinent to each language. This was a big job but it works great and it added a whole new dynamic functionality to a previously static table.--Mike Sorensen 10:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

No Fault Found (NFF)

I learned about this thing when I was researching the problem with my car. It stopped working 4 times and every time I took it the the dealer they said that they can't find any problem. Finally after a 6 months of hassle turned out that there was some corrosion in the computer circuits. If someone has any pictures of NFF problems it would be a very cool addition to this article.--Mike Sorensen 06:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Section about Pro-audio headphone amplifiers

I created a separate section about pro-audio headphone amplifiers. It will need some work but it is a good start. In the whole article about Headphone amplifier there was absolutely no mention about pro-audio headphone amps. It still needs references. I'll work on it when I find some more time.--Mike Sorensen 15:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Added images to Video pointer article

It still needs references, it's a project in progress.

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I just updated the licensing tag. There should be no problem anymore. I have released it to public domain.--Mike Sorensen 16:24, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Please, do not edit my comments/arguments at the mastering talk page

Please, do not condense the text as it makes it unreadable. It might also be perceived as an attempt from you to discourage people from reading it. Jrod2 20:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The content of your comments is unchanged, so it may not be perceived as an attempt to discourage the reading. It is commonly acceptable to compact comments that take excessive space. But no problem I will leave them alone.--Mike Sorensen 22:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Again, I apologize if I offended you with with my comments. You must realize though, that I did put a reference link to most everything I've said.

So, you must admit that I didn't make this whole thing up. There were people opposed to "Artmastering" way before me, and you got mad at me for questioning about your sources.

All I asked was, can I see more interviews about artmastering, other than the ones Scott The G-Man conducted?

Is there a possibility that you made the wrong judgment in choosing that particular article?

You are a young and passionate musician/artist, and I can understand your disappointment when you read that I was in opposition to your article. But, please don't take it personal.

On my spare time, I've doing both, a bit of reflecting and a bit of research, and I am sure that soon, I will come up with something that both of us will find acceptable.

Until then, have a nice evening. Jrod2 03:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

It is not about the article. Whether it was acceptable or not it really doesn't matter. That is why we have discussions on talk pages to figure that out. Editors sometimes submit articles with hope that others will find additional resources to support their point of view and not in hope that they will get assaulted. It is OK to disagree and reject the subject or references, but it is NOT ok to slur people that you have never met with accusations. If "artmastering" really is a new trend then it will survive by itself, without you and me, and there is no need to fight over it. I actually respect people that can bring a good argument, and at one point you have had one, but I do not respect people who assault others with personal accusations as this is just plain wrong. I'm not the only one who is judging your actions here, if you really want to start again then you need to clean the mess that you have left behind. Withdraw your comments, clean the sock puppet mess, and contribute in a meaningful way, and in time people will notice. Your apology is a great start, thank you.--Mike Sorensen 08:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

One more thing. Any article can be re-included in wikipedia and re-submitted for discussion at any time, even if it was previously deleted, and despite the fact that some editors may have disagreed with it in the past. This is one of the great principles of this organization that makes us all excited and allows us to dynamically change and continuously re-examine everything in the world, including the wikipedia itself. --Mike Sorensen 10:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Created new article on Wolfgang Palm

There isn't much info available on the Internet about Wolfgang Palm but then again I didn't dig deep enough. Several other wikipedia articles reference Palm so I finally created a bio page for him.--Mike Sorensen 03:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, this is a good start

However, I am not sure deleting comments is the answer, after all, nothing is really deleted at Wikipedia, correct? All opinions, POVs, anger, frustrations and accusations, should be made known to others.

Even if these are not factual.

Isn't that the Wikipedia way?

Example: You probably believe that you were accused by Evinatea or Edward. Guess what?

I emailed them making inquiries about those accusations at Wikipedia. This was their response (I can't name names) : "If you are Harrison PXXXX STXXXXX, STOP. We are trying to get the networks to effectively shut you down.

Your campaign of slandering and smearing the MMOL name, will have serious repercussions against you. We have people working to address this problem in Hamburg, so that you can be dealt effectively. On the other hand, if you are not that individual, we will let the owners know about what you saw on the web. Thank you."

I didn't expect this answer. Apparently, they never posted anything at Wikipedia? When I offered to delete everything, they answered: "Do not delete evidence".

I did a search on this person's name. Here are 3 links, one to the face of the presumed "Evinatea" impersonator (See: [4]), and two, Harrison's business web site (See: [5]). If you do a WHOIS to this site (See: [6]), his email is the contact, which means he is probably the owner.

Do you find all this interesting?

More, I am in New York City, so I called up, and the reception guy who answered, told me their address. However, to get this info, I did have to give my own phone number. They are located on West 20th Street and 5th Ave. I know the location, and I know the building. It's an expensive commercial building. NO WAY this is an underground, obscure operation.

On that block, I have seen record labels, so maybe that's why they are based there.

So, appearances can be deceitful on the web.

In all fairness, I think that all accusations and personal attacks on both the mastering pages and all the user pages should be deleted from Wikipedia.

I am sure that Musicmasteringonline.com will want to have all the false accusations removed, but when the time is right. For now, It appears to be a vendetta against them and the owners across the Atlantic, over a $450 payment.

One more thing, I didn't call you a sock puppet or created a notice on your page for all to see, not that I am aware of. Have a nice day .Jrod2 18:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is not a forum for venting anger and frustration. Anger management class is a better place for that. And it is definitely NOT wikipedia way, read Wikipedia:Civility, Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Deleting your offensive remarks is a great answer. So clean your comments and let the others worry about theirs. And until you do, I really don't have much to talk to you about. BTW, I will be happy to remove the sock puppet tags from your userpage if you start acting like a wikipedian. In the future please compact your comments when posting on my userpage. --Mike Sorensen 21:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Stem mixing and mastering

Thanks to input and suggestion of Wamnet I created article on Stem mixing and mastering. I'm a little surprised that in all the discussions and bickering on audio ralated pages there was no mention about stem mixing. But better late then not at all. Glory to Wayne Mitzen. --Mike Sorensen 22:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

aw man, no props needed but thanks anyway. I just love music and recording. What I find facinating is in all the controversial subjects out there, the audio one's always seem to generate the passion. I really hope we all can get the listener, the artists, and the rest of the industry to channel that passion in a positive, creative way. Wamnet 14:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Naming of synthesizer articles

Hi Mike- when creating synthesizer articles, please use the manufacturer name in the article title. For example, make sure your article is "Roland JD-990" not "JD-990". There may be other devices that have that model name. The manufacturer name helps reduce ambiguity. Thanks. --Mperry 21:05, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Good point Mperry, I used the names in the articles in a casual manner as some artists use them but I agree that it would have been more accurate to precede the model number with the manufacturer name. I will definitely keep that in mind. --Mike Sorensen 21:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Synthesizer

Although the intentions may have been good, your creation of synthesizer (musical instrument) was little more than vandalism. Did you consider that:

• Synthesizer had received 750 edits. By copy and pasting you destroyed the evidence of those edits and destroyed the credit due to the editors
• Over 2000 articles link to synthesizer. Were you going to go through and change those links?
• There already existed synthesizer (disambiguation), though I will admit that it did not seem to be linked to from synthesizer.

In future, a) think before an action like this and b) use the move command to change the names. Did you not notice this edit? -- RHaworth 11:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Please note: do not dismiss synthesiser as a typo - consider it a British spelling. -- RHaworth 11:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

• You can forego the drama, nothing got destroyed. The evidence have NOT been destroyed as you dramatically claim, but it simply exists at a different location. Please feel free to move the content back where it was and revert my edit if you believe that this is a problem. I was not aware of the "move" command but I will use it the future. --Mike Sorensen 12:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

• The links will now lead to a disambiguation page and users can easily find the correct topic and edit those links if needed. I don't know a way to automatically redirect those links but if there is a way to do that then please let me know. --Mike Sorensen 12:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

• A disambiguation page that points to itself is useless as you alreay noted. There is a large number of articles with word "synthesizer" in them and they are in need of disambiguation. So a proper disambiguation page was needed and it was created. --Mike Sorensen 12:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

• I believe that the consensus on English wikipedia is to go with American spelling, as this is an American website, so by this standard "synthsiser" is a typo.

In the future please use polite tone of voice when posting on my talk page. If you believe that I have made a mistake, feel free to educate me and show me the correct way or let me know in a polite tone of voice and I will correct it myself. Rude and offensive remarks are not welcome here. Do not equate an easily correctable mistake with vandalism, read wikipedia:civility before posting on my user page ever again. --Mike Sorensen 12:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)