User talk:Jeff G.

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I will try to post replies on the same talk page that the original post was made.

So if you post here, I will reply here, and if I posted to your talk page, I will monitor it and see any replies you make. I think this makes things less confusing because the conversation doesn't get split across two different pages. If you want me to reply elsewhere, please say so. Thanks! -- Jeff G. 03:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for changing the text at Image:Bertalanffy.jpg. For me it was the first time I want to use the fair use to get a picture at an article. One question though. Does it make any difference that I have the book in my possesion? - Mdd 23:43, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

If yoy could take a look at my last question Does it make any difference that I have the book in my possesion? I really would appreciate that. Thanks. - Mdd 12:28, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, my reply got lost. It would be good if you could give some detail as to where the photo was on the book jacket, how the image of the photo went from book jacket to the final form you uploaded to Wikipedia. Something like "I borrowed a copy of from a friend on 6 May 2007, and over the next two days scanned the photo on the bottom of the back of the book jacket with my Canon scanner, cleaned up, and converted to JPG with Microsoft Paint." would certainly help.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. The details are that the book is in my possesion. The photo is on the top part of the back cover. It's a black & white picture with I scanned with my hp scanjet 4470c as a colour picture and lowered the scanning-rate to the minimal rate possible. I scanned the picture into (Corel PHOTO-PAINT special edition 1988-98) as a colour picture to get some more contrast and life in the picture. The photo was first saved in a .cdr format. After that the picture was saved as .jpg with a 64x compression. This jpg image was then uploaded to Wikipedia.

The thing is however, that I want to use the picture claiming fair use. As guy from Holland I have very little experience with this, and would realy like to know more about it. So please tell me if I can do more? ... I realize the picture is still 19K big and lots of pictures seems only 5K. If this is for example necessary then it is no problem reducing the picture a little more. The question is if this or other thing are necessary? - Mdd 18:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I've uploaded a second picture of Bertalanffy, see Image:Bertalanffy III.jpg. Is that more how Wikipedia want to see it? - Mdd 18:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I've edited both image description pages and the Ludwig von Bertalanffy article. What do you think?   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

The template you made is quite impressive... and gives the opportunity to give very detailled and structured information. I do think however that the Licensing tag should come first. I have been doing some more reading and talking about this this evening, see [1]. And it is all becoming more clear to me. To fill in the template a person maybe also should study and talk for one evening to be able to fill the template... and that seems like a pitty. Or maybe a very good investment!?

I created the strange situation, that I have now uploaded two of the same images. I do thing that Image:Bertalanffy III.jpg is to far compressed.

I also read that you don't like smokers and maybe also think that Bertalanffy isn't looking to healty at the picture. The lack of pictures of Bertalanffy seems to be a bigger problem, namely a lack of pictures of systems scientists. Maybe they all didn't like their picture taken? Thanks for all the efforts. - Mdd 22:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment on the template. Perhaps you're right about its placement in a description page. I also think Image:Bertalanffy III.jpg is too far compressed, but I haven't seen a satisfactory answer as to how low the resolution should be (perhaps a maximum longer dimension of 180px, the width of the default thumbnail?). I'm sorry if I took "Cover art: Cover art from various items, for identification and critical commentary (not for identification without critical commentary)." on Wikipedia:Non-free content#Images too literally, but I had to criticize something and still stay sourced and encyclopedic.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:45, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for this feed back on the Bertalanffy image. You are questioning how low the resolution must be. I looked towards the K-Byte amount. 18K looked like a lot to me, but I've seen that there are also copywrited pictures with 1M. That doesn't seem right (if I have to criticize something also). It made me think that the 18K wasn't so bad after all. Best regards and thanks - Mdd 23:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

You're invited!

Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:ComeAsYouAre.jpg

Hello, JeffGent. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:ComeAsYouAre.jpg) was found at the following location: User:JeffGent/Nevermind temp. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 22:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:InBloom.jpg

Hello, JeffGent. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:InBloom.jpg) was found at the following location: User:JeffGent/Nevermind temp. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 09:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Babel levels

Hi, I noticed you added an xx-6 level to the Babel levels page. Please don't do this without discussing it first on Wikipedia talk:Babel. In case you discussed this a long time ago and the discussion is already archives, please accept my apologies, but please also show where the discussion was made and how consensus was reached.

I say this having participated in the xx-5 discussion, a level which was vehemently opposed by many Wikipedians. When consensus was reached to approve it for English, it was made clear that this was the highest level - as in, to use this level, you absolutely must be a professional, for example a professional translator of this language, having a degree in literature, or something similar. Unfortunately, as many users have predicted, this level is used by many Wikipedians who have poor language skills and don't actually understand what it means. This does not detract from the intended meaning of xx-5 as the professional (read: uber-godlike) level.

In short, please discuss before adding any more levels. Also, please reply on my talk page if it's not too much trouble.

-- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 16:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Infobox Politics of Tonga

Please don't put templates in article space. It doesn't negate fair use policy, and just makes a mess. Zetawoof_(ζ) 09:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for your concern. What do you suggest we do with the "Politics of XX" infobox templates that have non-free images on them (that is, just about all of them)? I thought I had found a creative solution, short of substing then trashing the templates, or trashing the images. Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Find alternative images. Remember that fair-use policy dictates that FU images be used to "contribute significantly to an article", not as a decorative element. Zetawoof_(ζ) 09:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

From what I gather, there are very few. The image copyright holders (the monarchs, legislatures, etc. that run the countries) hold their crests and flags very dear to their hearts. Have you read 1988 Revised Edition of "the Tonga Royal Arms and Flag Act" ("ROYAL ARMS AND FLAG ACT - Act No. 17 of 1962 - AN ACT TO PREVENT THE UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE TONGA COAT OF ARMS AND THE ROYAL ENSIGN", "His Majesty in Council", "Kingdom of Tonga") (as available online at http://legislation.to/Tonga/DATA/PRIN/1988-007/RoyalArmsandFlagAct.pdf)? It's quite short, and I've excerpted the relevant portions of it at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:SilaTonga.svg.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your edit to 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0

You applied a warning template to my talk page, which as read accuses me of posting content in violation of copyright. Whether or not to use the AACS decryption key literally has been being discussed on Talk:AACS encryption controversy, where I invite you to participate. (I'll also note incidentally that the links in the template don't work; what you were supposedly warning me against doing (publishing a DMCA-violating copyright circumvention device) doesn't match the warning language on the template; and in any case it's rendered moot by the consensus to include the number literal in the article as appropriate.)

Also, a tip on communicating with other editors: it's considered rude to "warn" long time editors and administrators with boilerplate templates rather than engaging them personally. I just wanted to let you know this, since I assume it was not your intent to be rude, so as to save you the embarrassment of making a gaffe.

Cheers, and happy editing!

Demi ^T/_C 19:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)