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NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Instrumentalists

Either that or use it as a parent category. Categories for Multi-instrumentalists and Musicians by Instrument already exist. Instrumentalists as far as I can tell should cover every single musician that uses musical instruments: if so it's too vague to be a separate category. At any rate, there should be some description in the category itself as to what criteria is used for the inclusion of articles. T@nn 22:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:If-then-else templates

Nominator's rationale: As these template since long ago lived out their usefullness, I see no reason to keep this category. _→AzaToth 21:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I think this nomination rather puts the cart before the horse: the category still contains a group of 9 related templates. Those which I have checked are still in use, and I suggest that the category should stay until the templates are deleted, which will have to wait until they are no longer used by other templates. --22:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:Close to Home

Nominator's rationale: Delete - category not needed for show article and episode and character subcats. Otto4711 21:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Munsters films

Category:Munsters films to Category:The Munsters

Merge - seems unnecessary to split off from the main category. Should the film that's crystal-balled in the article-sized category description ever get made then the utility of the category can be reconsidered but for now it's not needed. Otto4711 19:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. No need for a one-article sub-category to facilitate crystal ball-gazing in the category text. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:KYTV (TV series)

Category:KYTV (TV series) - Template:Lc1

Delete - category not needed for one article and the episode subcat. Otto4711 18:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing show, but Delete the cat. Lugnuts 19:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Belgian animation films

Propose renaming Category:Belgian animation films to Category:Belgian animated films

Nominator's rationale: Rename - to bring in line with similar such categories for other countries, for example, Category:French animated films and Category:Canadian animated films Krikke 18:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. Note that the nominator did not follow the procedure at WP:CFD#Procedure, so the category was not tagged with {{cfr}}. I have now tagged it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Boondocks Pictures

Propose renaming Category:Boondocks Pictures to Category:The Boondocks images

Nominator's rationale: Rename - to bring in line with the article and category names and because "images" is the more common word choice. Otto4711 17:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Blind Bluesmen

Merge into Category:Blind musicians, or at least Rename to Category:Blind bluesmen. -- Prove It ^(talk) 15:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to both Category:Blind musicians and Category:Blues musicians. Otto4711 15:53, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and populate, and rename to Category:Blind bluesmen. A Google search throws up a number of references which suggests that Blind bluesmen are a significant group in the history of the blues, and that it would be possible to write a substantive head article on the subject. Once the category is populated, it might be appropriate to consider then whether it should be listified, but for now I would like to see the category retained. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Bryan-College Station, Texas

Merge into Category:People from the College Station/Bryan, Texas, area, or the reverse. -- Prove It ^(talk) 15:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Parasitic twin

Category:Parasitic twin to Category:Twins

Merge, Category:Parasitic twin is very narrow and unlikely to be well populated. Alternatively, merge it with Category:Conjoined twins, a similarly narrow category that already shares some articles with Category:Parasitic twin. Una Smith 15:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment doesn't it more likely go with Category:Supernumerary body parts? 132.205.44.134 22:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:List of Railways in Cambridgeshire

Merge into Category:Transport in Cambridgeshire, badly named, too small to be useful. -- Prove It ^(talk) 14:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and populate, but rename to Category:Railways in Cambridgeshire per other regional subcats of Category:Rail transport in England (where it should have been parented, and is now). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename per BrownHairedGirl, for consistency with other British railcats. DuncanHill 22:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American Idol season summaries

Category:American Idol season summaries to Category:American Idol episodes

Merge - these are basically season-length episode guides. Since we already have a well-established Category:Television episodes by series structure it makes sense not to build up another structure at the "seasonal summary" level. Otto4711 13:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Agreed. Season summaries should be in the same category as individual episode summaries, possibly sorted to the top to help differentiate the two within the category. Dugwiki 16:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Primates of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

Propose renaming Category:Primates of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America to Category:To be determined by consensus

Nominator's rationale: Rename, these people appear to be better known as exarchs or archbishops (see for example Demetrios, Archbishop of America and Iakovos, Archbishop of America). Would Category:Greek Orthodox archbishops of America be OK? BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:54, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

~~Rename to Category:Archbishops of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America~~ - A couple of the biographies on these people at http://www.goarch.org refers to these people primarily as "Archbishop". This title should be used for the people. (The Greek Orthodox have a cool name for their website.) Dr. Submillimeter 13:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Isn't "Archbishops of the fooish Archdiocese of" a bit excessive? Apart from a few special Roman Catholic posts, an Archbishop is always an archbishop of an archdiocese; we have Category:Archbishops of Canterbury rather than Category:Archbishops of the archdiocese of Canterbury. At http://www.goarch.org/en/archbishop/demetrios/, it refers to the current post-holder being "Enthroned as Archbishop of America" rather than "Enthroned as Archbishop of the archdiocese of America". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Rename to Category:Greek Orthodox Archbishops of America - The use of both "archbishop" and "archdiocese" in my first suggestion was redundant. Dr. Submillimeter 14:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Concern I am a little concerned that Category:Greek Orthodox Archbishops of America provides a temptation for mis-categorisation under a Greek-by-Nationality category (much as has happened here with Slovak Greek Catholics (who are presumably members of the Slovak Greek Catholic Church which has a diocese in Canada, the 'Eparchy of Saints Cyril and Methodius of Toronto' to be exact, and will not necessarily all be Slovak by nationality)). However I can't think of a better name without clumsiness of some sort. Are there other Orthodox Archbishops of America? Ecumenical? -- roundhouse 19:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

These are the Ecumenical ones, ie they come under the Ecumenical/Greek Patriarch of Constantinople (as other discussion). Johnbod 22:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- I agree that it will be hard to find any other name, but the meaning should be explained by the category text. I don't this that piece of pastorwaynery should be taken as very strong evidence of a wider problem. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:53, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment However, I have just found Archbishop Damaskinos of Jaffa - Greek Othodox in USA, coming under the Patriarch of Jerusalem (and boy, look at his category!). So the Dr's suggestion is I think out, except as a head category for two sub-cats. They are different churches, though in full communion. I'm rather more concerned with the wider scheme - if the other debate deletes the parent category, the present one will be orphaned. What a mess. PW didn't link his Primates into wider schemes. Johnbod 23:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Canadian expatriate journalists in the United States

Category:Canadian expatriate journalists in the United States to Category:Canadian journalists and Category:Canadian expatriates in the United States

Merge, overly narrow triple intersection per WP:OCAT#Narrow_intersection. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:UConn Huskies football coaches

Merge into Category:Connecticut Huskies football coaches, convention of Category:College football coaches. -- Prove It ^(talk) 05:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:West Virginia Journalists

Merge into Category:American journalists, or at least Rename to Category:West Virginia journalists. -- Prove It ^(talk) 02:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:American journalists and to Category:People from West Virginia. Many journalists move around n the course of their career, and sub-catting American journalists by whatever states they have worked in would both create category clutter on individual articles and a plethora of small sub-categories for smaller states which do not have many notable journalists. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a category for "whatever states they have worked in" but the state THEY ARE WORKING in. From a journalists perspective, this is important. Also, just because they're working in a state doesn't mean they're from that state. That will lead to innacurate associations. Wvtowner 14:08, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't separate categories by current/former status, so if the category exists, it will include journalists who have worked in Virginia as well as those currently working there.

So far there are only 3 articles in the category (the 4th was the subject of an expired {{prod}}, so I deleted it), so it wont be hard to fix any inappropriate additions of the "from" category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, it's West Virginia. A category tag can be removed if the journalist doens't work there any more. I thought you knew how Wikipedia worked. On top of that, the delete notice had not expired. Wvtowner 23:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:History of the Levant

Category:History of the Levant to Category:Levant

Merge the categories, as Levant itself refers to a historic region, and as such a 'history of' category is redundant; at the moment the two overlap and create confusion. Tewfik^Talk 01:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This seems to me to cause problems with parent categories. Category:Levant is a geograpical category which includes the whole Category:Israel, Category:Lebanon wtc; but Category:History of the Levant is as subcat of Category:History of the Middle East, which should not include all the non-historical articles from that region. Much better just to sort any excessive dual-categorisation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per BHG. Johnbod 22:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pseudo-scientific fraud

Category:Pseudo-scientific fraud - Template:Lc1

This should be renamed, since it's inconsistent with most of the other related categories and articles. It's also potentially ambiguous — is it a fraud that's pseudoscientific, or is it something that resembles a scientific fraud? (okay that's a stretch) — and possibly redundant (aren't all pseudosciences also frauds?) Sapphic 00:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please suggest a specific rename or merge when you nominate. (And no, they don't all have to be frauds. They could just be stupid. The originator of phrenology believed it. No fraud was required.) Doczilla 05:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I figured the new name would be agreed upon by discussion here. I suggest Category:Pseudoscientific fraud. I'll be away for a few days but will return to this when I get back (so don't take my absence as indication of abandonment of this or any other nomination!) --Sapphic 12:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spelled without hyphen The spelling of the category should match themain article Pseudoscience which doesn't include a hyphen. So Category:Pseudoscientific fraud is probably ok. Dugwiki 16:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Pseudoscientific fraud (since Category:Pseudoscience and its subcats appear to have standardised on the American spelling), and please somebody fix the tabloid tone of the category text. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::So far there are only 3 articles in the category (the 4th was the subject of an expired {{tl|prod}}, so I deleted it), so it wont be hard to fix any inappropriate additions of the "from" category. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] <small>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 18:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
-::::: First of all, it's West Virginia. A category tag can be removed if the journalist doens't work there any more. I thought you knew how Wikipedia worked.
+::::: First of all, it's West Virginia. A category tag can be removed if the journalist doens't work there any more. I thought you knew how Wikipedia worked. On top of that, the delete notice had not expired. [[User:Wvtowner|Wvtowner]] 23:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
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