Talk:Liam Gallagher

Alot of the stuff in here is hearsay and rumour. Not exactly fact. I'm also going to edit the bit where it says liam wrote a new song called "A bell will ring" because that was actually written by Gem Archer, Liams new song that was played at Glastonbury 2004 was "The Meaning of Soul". f No it's not. It's all 100% true. True true true true true true. True. Except for the lies.--Crestville 19:09, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

IMDB states his IQ at 147. anybody know where this is from. Maybe the "7" was a typo.

Yeah, I saw something like that on a tv show called 29 minutes of fame. Maybe he's an idiot savante?--Crestville 10:28, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Not only was a lot of this hearsay and rumour, but probably libellous too! I've toned it down a bit and removed some bits that were unnecessary. I've also transferred the quotes to Wikiquote. I also tried to give it a more neutral POV and corrected some spelling. Stu 11:49, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Teetotaller

The page of teetotalers on wikipedia claims Liam is abstaining ... is this true ? WinstonBerni 21:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Almost certainly not. He had a period in 2000.--Crestville 10:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Uninspiring

Whereas other Britpop bands such as Elastica and Manic Street Preachers chose not to play the media 'game', or if they did it was usually seen as uninspiring

I feel that when Richey James Edwards carved 4 real into his arm during an interview, calling it uninspiring is a bit wrong. Salmon 02:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Very true, please change it to something you feel is more appropriate--Crestville 17:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Jimmy Page

Can someone tell me where the story about him singing on Jimmy Page's next album came from please?

the Q awards 2005--Crestville 15:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Liam's voice

Has it really lost so much considerable power and range as you guys say so? Because I certainly disagree with you and moreover I think that Liam is progressing as a singer. He is finally putting some singing techniques, which he wasn't able to in recent albums. So, I really think that Liam is progressing as a singer and I think that you guys should answer why you are putting this. In my opinion your claim is POV. Elan Morin Tedronai 15:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I thought it was you who wrote all that stuff about him neading vocal training.--Crestville 16:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I haven't edited this page for a long time. What I wrote was that Liam had vocal lessons around the recording of DBtT two years ago and has sung most of the songs coming from the sessions - including b-sides and album songs - which is a self-evident progress from the Glasto performance. In my opinion it hasn't lost so much power and range. Elan Morin Tedronai 10:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Elan, and I'd also like to see support for "...fans feel Liam's voice has lost range and power.." as that is a completely unverifiable conjecture and hearsay-filled opinion, also, I've removed the following passage:

"Another example of Gallagher's weakening voice is the popular track Columbia he no longer sings the end of the song in live concerts, leaving the "Come On, Come On, Come On, YEAH YEAH YEAH!" lyrics to brother Noel."

Completely ridiculous. Aside from the fact that Columbia hasn't been an Oasis setlist in eons, whos to say what the reasons are for why Oasis performs a certain song in the way they do. And who decided that the end of Columbia was particularly vocally intensive? [Its not.] Why do they play Acquiesce differently now, is it because Noel's fingers have begun to hurt? Whomever added that, please be a bit more hesitant to add something so non-encyclopedic in the future.

Comparisons completely inaccurate

I implore anyone to show me footage of either Ian Brown or Richard Ashcroft singing in a similar pose to Liam Gallagher. Neither singer's stage "presence" resembles Liam's in the least. Brown and Ashcroft: - Both hold the mic and/or mic stand in their hand. - Have the mic set at a normal height. In the case of Ashcroft's sometimes raised/angled down mic, he still sings straight into it. - Neither singer sings with a bent leg, bent torso, bent neck, and hands in their pockets or behind their back as Liam does. The parts of the Liam Gallagher article implying that his singing pose is a copy of or is influenced by either man are wholly incorrect.

Be bold, change it.--Crestville 17:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Galagher walks around the stage with the exact same swagger as Ian Brown, uses the tamburine in the same way...though I do totally agree about the singing stance, his stance is unique and original. --- Then I assume it was you who edited the passage -- "This pose has been suggested by some as a contributing factor to his distinct vocals" -- Who has "suggested" this? Where's the proof/support. I personally have never come across anything suggesting that Liam sounds the way he does because of his knee being bent, or even his neck being angled in that manner. Please change this to have a basis in reality, or I will. Also where is the citation for what Noel Gallagher supposedly said in December 2005 related to Liam's control over/reasons for modifying the Oasis set list? --- Anyone, anyone? I'm about to tear this unsubstantiable piece out.

Interview with Northsound 1, broadcast on December 12 2005.--Mr. Monobrow 00:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Cool, is there a link to this? Or did you just hear it and are loosely relaying it

I have a copy of the interview and can personally verify the comments.

What makes you think your "personal verification" means anything -- will you scan and e-mail the article to anyone who asks? Also, unrelated to your comments, what is this "controversy" section and where is the substantiation for any of it... And who thought it'd be a good idea to end the article on that note?

I'm also curious as to where Liam said that he "doesn't feel he is improving as a songwriter" ??

Mad fer it!

Citation and POV

I noticed this page in the 'recent changes' today, during a revert/edit war going on. I took a look, and can see a lot of unsourced statements and POV commentary about why he's famous, whether or not he's 'successful', and so on. The regular editors really should take a few hours and find citation for this article. ThuranX 20:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I took a bit of time and cleaned up a section already, in the hopes of prompting some constructive editing. I couldn't FIND sources for a few things I tried, so I'll leave it to those who pay more attention to this guy, and may know where to look, iinstead of hoping google will get a hit. ThuranX 20:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I have done some tidying up, including adding references, and removing silly citation requests. Some were basic common knowledge of Gallagher/his life, as well as some which aren't linkable. Several are from interviews or books which can't be verified through links. 136.206.11.249 15:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed a sentence from the third paragraph of the 'Childhood and early years' stating that Liam formed the band after The Stone Roses released their second album - this was in 1995, a year after Definitely Maybe had been released Cavie78 09:55, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Rhythm Guitar?

Curious about the part about Liam playing rhythm guitar in "November 1999 only." Liam is a guitarist, but was there actually a time [aside from the Songbird video] where he played guitar @ live Oasis shows? If so which ones, as I'd love to find footage.

Go Let It Out Video?--Crestville 12:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Never @ a live show though, right? That'd be odd.

I don;t think they were touring during this period, so probably not, no. Plus, his singing style is so iconic that you'd feel a bit cheated if his was playing guitar. When Noel has left tours, they always get a session guitarist in.--Crestville 15:33, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

OMG, what happened to Liam's voice

I know that this has already been discussed. But I recently watched live concerts of Oasis in the past few years, and Liam sounds like he has had a stroke. It is awful. I remember his range and power in the 90s. He was a truly awesome singer. I know he has aged, like everyone, but his voice should not have declined this much. Maybe he is drinking too much before going on stage. This really makes me appreciate their earlier work.