Wikipedia talk:A nice cup of tea and a sit down

This page is transwikied from an old version of Wikinews:A nice cup of tea and a sit down, plus I have made some minor edits to be appropriate for Wikipedia. Here is the page history:

1. (cur) (last) 23:42, 9 November 2005 Borofkin
2. (cur) (last) 23:25, 9 November 2005 Borofkin

—MESSEDROCKER (talk) 20:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Good idea

I like this page, it's a pretty damn good idea. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:43, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Nighthawks

You know, these kind of things can backfire if someone sees condescension in the message, which has a rather feminine tone to it. I added a link to Nighthawks for balance and for those so inclined to that moody sort of atmosphere. I myself am not much of smoker, but that painting might also assist those so inclined, since it was from a time when that sort of thing could be done in a more intimate public setting such as that depicted. -- PlsTalkAboutIt 01:49, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I personally prefer the Nighthawks pic to the one of the teapot and cup too.Rosa 20:15, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The tone of just "See also..." was removed, but I agree the current image is a bit washed out. Personally the tone "A nice cup of tea" is feminine in my mind, that's what makes it "cute", but feel free to add the image itself? Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 00:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment

• Wow this place really works.--62.6.139.11 15:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

This comment above was misplaced in the project page, I'm putting it here...Rosa 20:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

you sure its misplaced? looks like its referring to wikipedia as a whole! BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 00:08, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm positive it's referring to the project of "a nice cup of tea and a sit down" as a place where people really come to blow off some steam but you could be right of course. Other facts that you might want to consider are: first, that comment was written below the "insert further niceness here" not above as is proper; second, this user has been reported as a vandal, a lot. My impression is that the user just stumbled upon this article by chance, saw that people really spoke nicely of each other in spite of having differences elsewhere and inserted the first thought that came into his/her mind into the project page. Rosa 00:38, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

yeh, you could be right about that. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 01:04, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Wolves in sheep's clothing

Great idea, but what are we to do about vitriol dressed up as niceness? Current examples:

• All the people who wanted to downplay the fact that depleted uranium causes Gulf War syndrome have good qualities.
• The users who want to remove all references to War crimes from the Slobodan Milošević article simply because he died before he could be convicted surely have positive qualities as well.

which sort of thing translates (approximately) as

"the people I'm referring to are (due to the fact that they disagree with me) self-evidently a bunch of complete jerks, and I'm going to (mis)use this page to draw attention to the fact while pretending that I'm broad-minded enough to accept the fact that some people are always going to be incorrigible idiots".

If this sort of thing gets accepted, it will subvert the whole purpose of the page. What to do? Delete it? Have a word (nicely, of course) on their talk pages? Or perhaps be more specific about "What A nice cup of tea and a sit down is not for"? Vilĉjo 00:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Hola, you're making a good point here. Maybe the person who created this page could delete the posts you have just mentioned. I don't think it's necessary to be more specific about "What A nice cup of tea and a sit down" is for though; those people posting that kind of messages know perfectly well they shouldn't be doing it but just want to pervert the spirit in which this project was created. My opinion is they should be treated like vandals for doing so.Rosa 07:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Clean out periodically

How often should the page be "cleaned up"? Whenever it starts to get full, or on a more regular basis? I'm just afraid some of the tea ain't so hot anymore, and people's bums are falling asleep from sitting so long. :-) Thanks. --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 01:35, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind reordering it so the most recent tea-parties are at the top, rather than the bottom, of the list. Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 00:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

That does make sense, but all other such pages I've seen in Wikipedia have the newest things at the bottom. Maybe we should put in === headings for each month (maybe just one heading for 2005), making navigation easier (and perhaps have a TOC down there). We could also consider starting an archive when it gets simply too long. One last note: as others have said already (although maybe not in so many words), jolly good show! Tamino 17:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I decided to be bold and do it anyway. What do you think? Tamino 15:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Red Dwarf reference

"Look, just because it's an armour-plated alien killing machine that salivates unspeakable slobber doesn't mean it's a bad person. What we've got to do is get it round a table and put together a solution package - perhaps over tea and biscuits."

- Rimmer in "Polymorph"

—WAvegetarian•_{CONTRIBUTIONS}^TALK• ^EMAIL• 06:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Another template

I was thinking of making a new template for this lovely project. Here is a copy of the draft. To tell me what you think/edit the draft/tell what a silly idea this is (choose one), go to User:Tamino/Tea2 template draft. Tamino 16:18, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

	Someone has poured you a nice cup of tea. Won't you come and sit down?
	WKC

Since when is a nice, fresh cup of tea not a delightful, welcome thing? I say, Kudos to you. David Spalding ^Talk/_Contribs 17:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

A nice cup of tea and a sit down is a too long article name

so 'Compliment Someone' or 'Compliment a Wikipedian!' is a better title. Auroranorth 08:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

This is in response to his project(?) Wikipedia:Compliment a Wikipedian!, which I suggested he merge here. --Quiddity 09:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Project? I suppose so - it can just be part of the Kindness Campaign. There's nothing wrong with another pageAuroranorth 11:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

There is no need to shorten the name. A nice cup of tea and a sit down is exactly what this is. —this is messedrocker (talk) 01:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Be thankful for its brevity. I'm considering creating a WP:Sit down take a stress pill and think things over (reference: 2001: A Space Odyssey (film)) page. ;) David Spalding ^Talk/_Contribs 17:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Userbox

I'm not sure if one of these has already been made but I made this:

This user enjoys pouring nice cups of tea. Would you like a cuppa?

at {{User:Yuanchosaan/Userbox/User teatime}}.

Is it any good? I'm part of the Kindness Campaign and wanted to make a userbox for this. Anyway, enjoy your tea and happy editing! Yuanchosaan 00:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

MfD?

I am considering nominating this page for deletion. In my experience this page and its associated template are used primarily as a passive-aggressive or patronising tool for suggesting an opponent is over-reacting or otherwise lacking self-control. Plus this page provides a forum for posting a public record of the (usually false, and made in bad faith) accusation that someone needed a nice cup of tea and a sit down. I don't doubt the good intentions of the creators and maintainers of this page, nor of those of you who use this in good faith, but in my opinion the contribution of this page to the encyclopaedia is overwhelmingly negative. Hesperian 03:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I think you mis-understand the purpose of the page as well as it's usage. I have had this page on my watchlist for a long time and I have no idea what you're talking about. Have a read of the comments on this page and please justify your view that "the contribution of this page to the encyclopaedia is overwhelmingly negative".--Konstable 11:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Virtually every time I see anyone quoting "WP:TEA", the context indicates that it is a passive-aggressive substitute for "you're over-reacting and being a jerk, and I'm not". And when the victim goes to this project page, they read about how the person who posted it to them is following the rule of "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all", and that they have oh-so-honourably resisted the urge to whack you with a big backhanded compliment with a "but" on the end. But they haven't resisted the urge at all, because this page dishes out the backhanded compliment for them. And just to rub it in, the attacker gets to pwn them forever by posting a record to this project page.

I don't really care about the comments on this page; they are inherently biased. Get out there and have a look at how it is actually being used.

Hesperian 12:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I haven't actually seen this page used like that, but I still don't see how that warrants deletion. Deleting this page won't help the issue, they'll find another way I assure you. There are pages that are being abused exponentially more heavily: meta:DICK, WP:TROLL and WP:POINT to name a few. Doesn't mean they should all deleted. At least this page provides a peaceful place for those who do use it properly. By the way I've had a look at what links to it and in most cases it is actually proper use. Let the trolls be trolls, let civil people have civil pages even if trolls mis-use them.--Konstable 12:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)