Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Triptych, May–June 1973: Difference between revisions
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::::They are all notables (except for his nanny), I work up some stubs ans wikilink them. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] 09:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::*"Bacon rendered this awareness by pronouncing a wristwatch" - I think pronounce is probably the wrong word; it doens't make much sense here. |
:::*"Bacon rendered this awareness by pronouncing a wristwatch" - I think pronounce is probably the wrong word; it doens't make much sense here. |
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::::There is a very interesting technique here, but I have'nt explained it properly. Will have a think, deleting until I have a better sentence. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] 13:42, 4 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Emphasise is probally a better word; need to clarify the statement. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] 09:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC) |
::::Emphasise is probally a better word; need to clarify the statement. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] 09:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::*"panel is bounded" - is '''bound'''| :::*"when he painted" - during this time painting (when isn't totally right) |
:::*"panel is bounded" - is '''bound'''| :::*"when he painted" - during this time painting (when isn't totally right) |
Revision as of 13:42, 4 August 2007
Self nom. 1973 triptych by the Irish artist Francis Bacon, and the second in his series of three "Black Triptychs". Thanks to Outriggr for help with the prose. Ceoil 17:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Oppose: Overall, the article is good -- very thorugh and well researched. But I feel the composition could use some improvement. Of the four featured article criteria, I recommend addressing the following:
- 1. Basic criteria met?:
- 1a. Well written?
- "when he painted" - during this time painting (when isn't totally right)
- "from the event," - rm the comma
- As I was reading the biographical context section, I found the first ten sentences or so a bit disjointed and jarring - not in content but order. One minute we were reading a Dyer bio, then suddenly about Bacon's attraction to him. I would start off the whole section with this
Then, start a new paragraph after "...between theft, borstal, and jail." Group information describing Dyer's general demeanor and appearance together, followed by the sentence beginning "Dyer was typical of Bacon's taste..." (this sentence should be preceded by the sentence beginning "Dyer was a borderline alcoholic...") The rearrangement most probably will necessitate some rephrasing for clarity. This sentence:Bacon's prior affairs had all been with older men, and though those men were similarly tumultuous, Bacon had been the one who was dominated. Bacon's first lover Peter Lacy would often tear up the young artist's paintings, and in drunken rages, beat up him up, and leave him on the street half conscious.[9] In contrast, Bacon was attracted to Dyer's vulnerability and trusting nature.
should probably be moved to later on, to follow the chronological progression of the section.However, over time those traits overwhelmed their affair, and by 1970, Bacon was just providing Dyer with enough money to stay more or less permanently drunk.
- 1a. Well written?
- Outriggr has looked after this. Ceoil 09:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- This sentence
would be better placed in a Critical response section (or something similarly named)Many critics have cited Dyer's portraits as favourites, including Michel Leiris and Lawrence Gowling.
- There is not enough published material available to create a "critical reception" section. Very often Bacon's paintings went straight into private collections, and though I was unable to find out for sure, I think thats what hapened here. Paintings are not like albums; they are not "released", and generally Bacon's paintings did not ssurface until they were featured in retrospectives. Ceoil 09:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- "to draw Bacon's attention" - should be followed by a comma
- "he had planted cannabis" - rm "had"
- This sentence
breaks up the narrative: (a) What call to the police? (B) Mention the suicide attempts before this (since it occurs before the evening being discussed) probably in the previous paragraph, near the end.In an effort to draw Bacon's attention he had planted cannabis in Bacon's flat before phoning the police, and had attempted suicide on a number of earlier occasions.
- "along with the deaths of his friends Belcher, Rawsthorn, Watson, Deakin, and his nanny Winifred" - who are these people? They are like a laundry list of unknowns. There deaths might be mentioned earlier OR collectively ("several friends lost over the course of his life") OR add some context for whom these persons are. You might think of a better way to incorporate it.
- "Bacon rendered this awareness by pronouncing a wristwatch" - I think pronounce is probably the wrong word; it doens't make much sense here.
- "panel is bounded" - is bound
- See comment below. Ceoil 09:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- This sentence
- 1b. Comprehensive? I would think there should be a Critical response section. Critique is scattered throughout, sometimes well, sometimes jarringly.
- 1c. Factually accurate?
- This sentence
needs a reference, unless it is already substatiated by reference 11.Bacon's treatment of his lover in these canvasses emphasises his subject's physicality while remaining uncharacteristically tender.
- Need to check that. Ceoil 09:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- The source covers it. Ceoil 13:33, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- This sentence
- 1d. Neutral? Yes
- 1e. Stable? Yes
- 2. Complies with Manual of style and relevant WikiProjects?:
- 2a. Concise lead section? Yes
- 2b. Hierarchical headings Yes
- 2c. Table of contents? Yes
- 2d. Sufficient inline citations? Yes
- 3. Properly placed, tagged and/or rationalized images?: I question the use of Female Nude Standing in a Doorway 1972 in this article. Its connection to this article is tenuous.
- 4. Appropriate length?: Yes
When these issues are addressed, notes the changes here and notify me on my talk page. Thank you for your work so far. — Esprit15d 20:13, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Esprit, for such a considered review; I'll take on board you points and report back when resolved. Ceoil 21:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- A minor note on "is bounded": this seems correct, as the usage is not the past tense of "bind", but "bound (v)--form the boundary of; be contiguous to". See entry four at m-w.com. –Outriggr § 21:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)