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Current Roster

This needs some work. Yahoo Sports! does not list Jonathan Elder as being on the Penguins' current roster, and why in the world is Marc-Andre Fleury not listed when he was thir starting goalie this season? Fleagle 21:06, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Crosby?

The Penguins are reportedly, going to name Sidney Crosby captain tommorow (May 31). Be sure to wait 'til then before editing it to the article. GoodDay 22:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've edited it to the post lockout section, as the coming appointment is confirmed at TSN (also added the TSN story external-link). GoodDay 23:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Crosby's not the all-time youngest captain. Brian Bellows served as the North Stars (interim) captain during later-half of 1983-84 season. Bellows was appointed at age 19yrs 4mths (5-months younger then, Crosby). GoodDay 22:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Crosby Era

A while ago (Apr.2007) this article had a section called "The Sidney Crosby Era" underneath the "Mario Lemieux Era". It was removed for recentism and POV. Anyhoo, I just found this article full of Penguins quotes. Here's a sample:

"What Sidney means to this franchise... it's so much you really cannot put it into words," Penguins veteran winger Mark Recchi said. "He has picked up for Mario and become the face of this team."
Martin Brodeur-- "Pittsburgh has always been a great hockey town, but it fell upon hard times towards the end of Mario's era. The Penguins were kind of on life support. But since Sidney, they have come back to life."

It also credits Crosby with making the team popular enough to stay in the city.

Ooooh, here's lots of sources!

The article flowed very nicely with those titles. Maybe it's time to add them back in? ColtsScore 05:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's wait (say 5-yrs). He could get traded in '07-08, suffer a career ending injury, retire. Thing is, he's only entering his 3rd NHL (Penguins) season. It's too early to compare him to Mario Lemieux. GoodDay 22:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mainstream media has been calling it the "Sidney Crosby era" since he was drafted (see sources above). He's widely recognized as the best player in the world. The franchise went from almost leaving town to being revived when Crosby joined the team. There's a definite demarcation between pre-Crosby and with-Crosby. Having a section marked with Crosby's name isn't a direct comparison with Lemieux, it's a reflection of a characteristic that is widely seen as shaping the team's public image and expectations. ColtsScore 23:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can we please wait 5 years? One Art Ross trophy, missing the playoffs (2006), losing in the 1st round (2007) and no Division title doesen't warrant a 'Crosby' era in Pittsburgh. Let the man win a few more Art Ross trophies, or lead the Penguins to the Stanley Cup (before we declare an 'era'). Trust me, if you add a 'Crosby era' to the article now, it will only be removed (by other editors). GoodDay 20:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS- If you want to add the 'Crosby Era', go ahead. It's your choice. Weither it stays or not, is up to the community. GoodDay 20:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If Crosby gets an "era" for two good seasons and only one scoring title/MVP and one playoff appearance, shouldn't there be a Jagr Era? From 1998 through 2001, he was 4 for 4 on scoring titles, also won a Hart, and the Penguins made the playoffs each season and won four playoff series. That's three more Art Ross's and four more playoff series won than Crosby at the moment. In the '99 playoffs, Jagr almost single-handedly beat the #1 seeded Devils... seems a bit ridiculous to me to give an "era" to a guy that has yet to sniff the second round of the playoffs and not give one to Jagr. -Sam 87.65.39.133 09:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have a point there. Surely, Jagr's Penguins tenure needs an 'Era' discription as well. GoodDay 18:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Article needs a jersey section, complete with photos and info. Also, the team mascot needs to be mentioned somewhere. Love each other, or perish. ~Auden 04:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 If Crosby gets an "era" for two good seasons and only one scoring title/MVP and one playoff appearance, shouldn't there be a Jagr Era?  From 1998 through 2001, he was 4 for 4 on scoring titles, also won a Hart, and the Penguins made the playoffs each season and won four playoff series.  That's three more Art Ross's and four more playoff series won than Crosby at the moment.  In the '99 playoffs, Jagr almost single-handedly beat the #1 seeded Devils... seems a bit ridiculous to me to give an "era" to a guy that has yet to sniff the second round of the playoffs and not give one to Jagr.   -Sam  [[User:87.65.39.133|87.65.39.133]] 09:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 :You have a point there. Surely, Jagr's Penguins tenure needs an 'Era' discription as well. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] 18:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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+Article needs a jersey section, complete with photos and info. Also, the team mascot needs to be mentioned somewhere. [[User:Apostle Tau|Love each other, or perish. ~Auden]] 04:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)