User talk:Meateater

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Who the hell do you think you are? (!)

Who do you think you are accusing me of making a personal attack?

I have not made any kind of personal attack and your stupid last warning is pathetic and childish, i demand to know why you have deciced to stick your nose into something you have got no clue about and threaten me with blocked?

The user Madchester some some strange reason declared publicly that i had made a personal attack on someone and he must be bloody god or something because it seems that in the dictatorship that is wikipedia i have no ability to defend my self or my reputation. And now you step in threatening to block me!!!!

If you could be bothered to read what i had written you would clearly see that i made no personal attack whatsoever and nothing i wrote goes against the defenition that is layed out by Wikipedia for a personal attack and actually the user Madchester has not followed the wikipedia guidlines for dealing with a suspected personal attack.

I wrote "It is pretty obvious to anyone with any size brain that....." now this statement is

A - a common phrase meaning the same thing as "does not take a genius to work it out"

B - was not directed at anyone in particular

C - was only written to highlight the fact that something was obvious and was not in reply to any other post on the talk page.

So please explain to me why this was deemed to be a personal attack and why the user Madchester decided to publicly accuse me of making a personal attack and why you have jumped on board with a final warning and why on a democratic website like wikipedia we have some jumped up little soldiers making random accusations and threats with no way for me to defend myself.

I want an apology from user: Madchester on the same talk page that i was accused, you have picked the wrong person to annoy here, i am sure there must be somewhere i can escalate my complaint before you block me so please expect me to be doing this now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.167.213.128 (talk) 13:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The ironic thing is, this child also denied incivility as well! Meateater 18:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Dealing with personal attacks....

Responding to personal attacks

Initial options

Frequently, the best way to respond to an isolated personal attack is not to respond at all. Wikipedia and its debates can become stressful for some editors, who may occasionally overreact. Additionally, Wikipedia discussions are in a text-only medium that conveys nuances and emotions poorly; this can easily lead to misunderstanding. While personal attacks are not excused because of these factors, editors are encouraged to disregard angry and ill-mannered postings of others when it is reasonable to do so, and to continue to focus their efforts on improving and developing the encyclopedia.

If you feel that a response is necessary and desirable, you should leave a polite message on the other user's talk page. Do not respond on a talk page of an article; this tends to escalate matters. Likewise, it is important to avoid becoming hostile and confrontational yourself, even in the face of abuse. Although templates have been used at times for this purpose, a customized message relating to the specific situation is often better received. When possible, try to find compromise or common ground regarding the underlying issues of content, rather than argue about behavior.

Personal attacks do not include civil language used to describe an editor's actions, and when made without involving their personal character, should not be construed as personal attacks, for instance, stating "Your statement is a personal attack..." is not itself a personal attack.

Not once did user: Madchester follow these guidlines.58.167.213.128 14:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Yawn, fed up with you, anyway, you are blocked for 24 hours. Good. Meateater 18:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Helpme request

{{helpme}}

Some HTML tags are allowed, though most are not. See Wikipedia:How to edit a page for what's accepted in terms of both HTML & wiki-markup. KTC 16:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

user:145.19.1.221

You have just posted a message on this IP user's talkpage, saying that he is going to be blocked after numerous warnings. Please do not do this.

The user in question has made one edit, admittedly clearly vandalism, in the past four months, and has received no recent warnings at all except for yours. Blocking policy clearly states that users may be blocked after repeated, recent vandalism and repeated, recent warnings, with the last episode of vandalism occurring after the last warning; none of these factors apply here.

You can, where circumstances warrant it, announce to a user that he will be referred to an admin for consideration of blocking; to tell him that he will be blocked, a procedure which you yourself cannot do, is inappropriate. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 09:53, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Two points; firstly, there is no reason to assume that the user making the recent edit is the same person as the one making the edits earlier this year, as many IPs are regularly re-assigned by their ISP; and secondly, in any case, my comments relating to timing of vandalisms and warnings remains true. Please use an appropriate cascading series of warnings, as making an immediate threat of blockade which may not then be done encourages vandals to believe that they can get away with it. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 20:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Another helpme request...

{{helpme}}

You can read about the selection process here: WP:ARBCOM#Selection_process Hope this helps! :) SQL^{(Query Me!)} 12:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Autoblock

I'm sorry that a block I made autoblocked you. I didn't mean to, but my blocking a more problematic user, probably either Zzuuzzisgay (attack username) or Mascheranothegeneral (vandalism-only account), must have hit you. I'm afraid this was an inconvenience for you I could not forsee - but you have my sincere apologies for the annoyance. Nihiltres^(t.l) 18:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC) (cross-posted)

Not at all. I remember being autoblocked for long periods of time before softblocking of IP addresses was enabled, and can thus understand your frustration. :) Nihiltres^(t.l) 20:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC) (cross-posted)

Block Messages

I notice that in the case of user:dummmmmmy, who I username blocked, you took it upon yourself to change my message to an {{indefblock}} message. Please be advised that placing of block templates, under any cicumtances, by users not qualified to administer blocks is discouraged, and changing a block template applied by an admin to a different (and incidentally in this case incorrect) template is verging on vandalism. Please do not do this again. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 20:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandal

I will not vandalise this wiki.--Arceus fan 20:53, 19 September 2007 (UTC)