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List of EuroCity services[edit]

I've created this article, based on the list that was on the EuroCity pages, to try and make it more informative and current. It's a work in progress, so it's still incomplete and a bit messy - any contributions to completing the page would be welcome. I noticed that a number of people are creating new articles for specific TEE/EC services, so this ties neatly into that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtVandelay13 (talkcontribs) 16:58, 6 March 2013


The GEC Alstom Push-pull article has been nominated for deletion. Mjroots (talk)

Routemap font size issue[edit]

After playing with Template:Alnwick branch line ... why is the font for the A1068 road seemingly larger than that for the A1? --Tagishsimon (talk) 19:32, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Remove them both - that way the font size is immaterial. After all, it is a rail diagram template, not a road diagram. See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways/Archive 35#Road numbers in RDTs. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:41, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
It’s a function of the A-road image that {{UK road}} applies. Useddenim (talk) 23:51, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Undiscussed page moves, railway stations[edit]

FYI, User talk:Amakuru#Page moves, railway stations. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Translation of Erzberg Railway (Austria) article from German[edit]

Hi everyone! I'm very new here as an editor. As a long-time reader (in French and German as well as English) I've found that there's loads of material in my area of interest (railways in Europe) in other languages, which doesn't exist in English. So as my first project I decided to translate the de:Erzbergbahn article into English. The subject ticks a lot of (my, at least) railfan boxes:

  • Mountain route (meaning sexy scenery, viaducts and tunnels)
  • Rack operation, now converted to adhesion
  • A recent history of commercial decline and closure (typical in this subject area)
  • A successful struggle by local people to raise money and keep the line running as a heritage railway

Now if you don't think that makes the subject notable enough for a published article on EN, that's fine - I've already learned a lot through this exercise. But I thought you might be interested.

The article is currently a work in progress in my sandbox. Body translation is done; there are a few to-dos on my list:

  • Cleaning up some of the citations, replacing German conventions with English ones
  • Finishing reading through the references available to me (only the online ones) to check verification and get more information
  • Assignment to categories (though - I think - that should only happen if the article moves out of my user space)

I'd really appreciate comments from more experienced editors in this area, especially about how well my draft fits the conventions and standards for rail articles. I've followed these as much as I know how to, converting the German content (which follows different conventions), but I had a few difficulties:

  • I tried using Template:Routemap but just couldn't get it to work, so fell back on the older Template:BS-map
  • Template:BS promises in its documentation to put mileage and altitude info into small font, but I can't get this to work (it works on DE-wiki): so the result looks ugly compared with the German original
  • How about adding a "maximum gradient" element to Template:Infobox rail line? (This one has an impressive 7.1%...)
  • Should redlinks (no English page) be left as redlinks (e.g. connecting railways, rolling stock classes) to highlight missing information and encourage article development to fill the gaps, or delinked for tidiness?

Of course there'll be other things I haven't noticed, which is why I'd love to get feedback from you. When I should move this draft out into Wikipedia proper? Would it be easier to get feedback and contributions if I moved it once I've finished my ToDos? Thanks, and Glück auf! Ssptwriter (talk) 02:15, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

@Ssptwriter: I've taken a look at User:Ssptwriter/sandbox and you've made a good start. Referencing could be a little better. Aim for at least one reference per paragraph. Conversions of measurements would be useful - km to miles and chains, m to yards or feet as appropriate. Gradients from percentages to "1 in xx". Categories need to be the same as those on en-Wiki, such as Category:Heritage railways in Austria. Mjroots (talk) 19:28, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
@Mjroots: Thanks for the very useful feedback! Working on it... I'm not sure about providing conversions within the routemap, as the mileage and altitude columns are already wider than ideal (they fail to use small font, for some reason). Unless there's some clever template (something like Template:convert), which will only show measurements in one unit, perhaps according to readers' localisation preferences? If not, I think I'll go with the "in Austria, therefore use ISO" guideline, though I'll convert all the dimensions in the body text. With regard to categories, am I right in thinking that I should only add those once the page moves out of my sandbox into mainspace? Ssptwriter (talk) 14:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
@Ssptwriter: Don't worry about the conversions for now. As for categories, add them to the article but add a colon (:) before the "c" (per above example). That will prevent them appearing live, the colons can be removed when the article is moved into mainspace. Mjroots (talk) 16:12, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
@Ssptwriter: I've had a quick look at the article, and it looks good so far. I will do some more detailed checking, and probably also some editing, of it in the near future. Bahnfrend (talk) 01:42, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
@Bahnfrend: Very appropriate username! Please do. As detailed on the ToDo list, I still have more research to do by reading more of the references, so it's very much WIP. But I'd appreciate any input you may have. If I've made some newbie mistakes, feel free to point them out on the Talk page. Ssptwriter (talk) 09:55, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Camden Town tube station[edit]

FYI, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London Transport#Camden Town tube station. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:44, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

San Diego Model Railroad Museum[edit]

I'd like to meet fellow Wikipedians while I host a meetup, free to San Diego County residents. If you're interested please see this link to the event on (talk) 20:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)