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About the episode number "35" ("An unnecessary addition"/"An unwished addition"), are you sure about the translation? i don't talk japanese, but on it.wiki somebody (not me..) has translated the title with "unwished" in place of "unnecessary". So, i'd thought to edit it on en.wiki too :o). Well, on the italian or the english wikipedia the title is wrong, who knows..lol... If you are sure about the word "unnecessary" then tell me it, so i can fix it on it.wiki. Bye!:)--[[User:Drugonot|DrugoNOT]] ([[User talk:Drugonot|talk]]) 01:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
About the episode number "35" ("An unnecessary addition"/"An unwished addition"), are you sure about the translation? i don't talk japanese, but on it.wiki somebody (not me..) has translated the title with "unwished" in place of "unnecessary". So, i'd thought to edit it on en.wiki too :o). Well, on the italian or the english wikipedia the title is wrong, who knows..lol... If you are sure about the word "unnecessary" then tell me it, so i can fix it on it.wiki. Bye!:)--[[User:Drugonot|DrugoNOT]] ([[User talk:Drugonot|talk]]) 01:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:The correct title is '''Unwanted Addition'''. Check it on: http://saiyanisland.com/naruto/?n=1/AirDatesShippuuden Bye.--[[User:Drugonot|DrugoNOT]] ([[User talk:Drugonot|talk]]) 15:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

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English manga

The English manga uses "Land of Fire" etc. and "Konohagakure" etc.

Also, the English manga uses macrons with Jonin, Chunin, but NOT with Choji, Hyuga, etc. WhisperToMe 21:01, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. WhisperToMe 21:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

May I move Hyūga clan to Hyuga clan? This is because the English manga and anime both do not use macrons to refer to the Hyugas. WhisperToMe 21:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, the English manga does not tack on "no Sato" at the end of the village names. WhisperToMe 21:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ages

Read the Naruto talk page at the bottom for Snapper's reasoning. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 21:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also you should archive this page. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 21:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese spell names in Zatch Bell!

Naruto words: Japanese vs. English

Hi! You seem to be on top of what goes on in the Naruto articles. Is there a convention as to whether to use Japanese or English words? I believe that there whould be consistency throughtout the pages (and English is probably better, given that this is the English Wikipedia), but I'm not sure if there's been a discussion on this. I've seen conflict with the hokage numbering (Godaime v. Fifth), with the names of the country and the hidden villages (Konohagakure v. Hidden Leaf), with the justsu names (Kage bunshin v. Shadow Clone) and even with the spelling of the ninja ranks (jōnin v. jounin). So my questions to you are:

- Is there a convention in place? (even if it is different for, say, geographical names and for the jutsu) If so, what is it?
- If not, does this warrant an open discussion?
- Either way, what would be the appropriate place to include a word's alternate language counterpart?

I'm just asking so that I can help with consistency throughout the articles. Thanks! --Byakuren 16:22, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the reason I care is because there's some amount of back-and-forth editing on those words... I'll stick to the convention you suggested from now on. Thx! -- Byakuren 16:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Yu-Gi-Oh GX manga (US)

What will happen if the manga (US verison) uses the Japanese original names?


Should we change it?

(The post was made by another user)

The thing about the GX manga is that it's a spinoff of the anime. The YGO anime series are spinoffs of the original manga. The reason why the manga names were chosen is because the manga is Takahashi's original work.

Anyway, the Portuguese-language YGO manga is going to use the dub names, so I guess the Portuguese Wikipedia will too. WhisperToMe 04:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aki Maeda

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anzu_Mazaki&diff=59873349&oldid=59769711

I had no idea the girl who plays Noriko Nakagawa in BR also was about to voice Anzu Mazaki!

Where did you hear this? WhisperToMe 01:38, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Paranoia Agents

Hey Geg, How do you know that the picture and the end of the closing credits is a broken circle and not a question mark?--Salvax 02:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shadi

I found out Shadi is the name of a Chinese village [1]... I need help moving all instances of Shadi to Shadi (Yu-Gi-Oh!) WhisperToMe 05:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kenzan's dub name?

Someone found this http://www.gamus.com/itemdetail.asp?itemnum=uprydrs

This dub name could end up being "Tyranno Hassleberry"! WhisperToMe 18:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Good catch there. I was wondering about how 1000-year-old mamodo were out before Zofis released them, too, but my dumb ass didn't put two and two together. BTW, I think it might be time to archive your talk page ;) Danny Lilithborne 01:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

8-bit theatre

Hi, I noticed you had several posts on the 8 bit theatre page, so I figured I'd ask you this. DO you know if the site is experiencing problems? I haven't been able to view the comics for a week now, and I'm trying to figure out why. I have a feeling it has something to do with the comics being in png/gif, in the FAQ section Brian says that when the comics are shown in png, they can't be viewed by some people for some people. I don't understand however, as the comics should be in gif... hopefully you can help. Thanks. DoomsDay349 17:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for bugging you, I figured it out, I had images blocked from the site by accident. Thanks. DoomsDay349 17:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think I should semi-protect List of Naruto episodes? ~MDD4696 20:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The naming issue

I showed him a link to VIZ' character page for Yu-Gi-Oh! WhisperToMe 18:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Something cute I found on a Yu-Gi-Oh forum!!

"NO! Why the hell did 4kids name me ASTER?!?!"

One Piece

I wouldn't mind settling the issue :) WhisperToMe 21:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"I don't know whether or not Smoker is used in the manga, so that's up in the air for now. " - Smoker is used in the manga WhisperToMe 21:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

VIZ uses:

  • Gin
  • Roguetown
  • Seven Warlords of the Sea

WhisperToMe 23:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's with the constant changing of One Piece terms from Japanese to English? Some like Going Merry to Merry Go, I can understand. But changing some like the Cipher Pol Devil Fruits to those English variants. Why? Those don't even have yet a Viz or 4Kids source to back them up.CalicoD.Sparrow 05:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also disprove of the constant changing from one to the other. Its got to the point where I no longer know which name to use. Your use of English dub names over Japanese names results in the incorrect naming of Gum Gum Jet Gattling gun (which is an upgrade of the Gum Gum gattling Gun, known in the 4Kids dub as 'Rapid fire') instead of Sumo Sumo Jet Gettling. This is nothing to do with useage by the fans... There is NO SOURCE for some of your changes even in the English dub/manga but there is in the orginal Japanese verison (yes, there IS an ORGINAL verison, despite what you've said in a recent edit and that is it!!!). As a reglaur editor of One Piece pages, other non-anime wikipedia pages and a fan of One Piece I don't disprove of your edits, but can you at least make it clear what the format of the terms you are using are on the Main One Piece page for the rest of us to follow, as I said, I'm lost now as to what words to use and I'm sure its causing more confusion amongst other editors. Angel Emfrbl 18:00, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How in the world is Azumanga Daioh seinen?

Well its published in a seinen magazine, by a seinen author... — Dark Shikari talk/contribs 04:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bleach

In the meantime there is a similar thing - All English-language versions of Bleach (manga) use Soul Reaper, yet some editors there still want to use "Shinigami" WhisperToMe 21:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'll participate in it. Is it at Talk:One Piece? WhisperToMe 22:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bottom line: Consistency

One cannot write a consistent encyclopedia based on a half-completed dub and the original source. As Angel pointed out quite aptly, there is no "Gum Gum Jet Gatling", only a Gomu Gomu Jet Gatling, and we cannot adapt the name of the english dub because WP:NOT a crystal ball and we'd just be making stuff up. Consistency in terminology should be our goal here. --tjstrf 18:38, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: You really might want to archive the top half or so of your talk page. Not to be a busybody, but it's rather huge. --tjstrf 18:39, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is, you cannot be consistent and use the dub, because the dub does not fully exist. If the series were finished, the dub had caught up with it, and the dub were the established norm among fans you'd have a good point, but as is you're asking us to do the impossible: standardize to a something which only half exists rather than something which does fully exist. --tjstrf 18:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm saying that I'd rather use the official romanizations by the author, or in cases where they are not available, Hepburn romanization. A second viable option would be the most popular version. The dubbed version of the name, as well as any particularly note-worthy varients, (e.g. Jyabura) would of course be listed alongside the chosen name. We would not need to be inconsistent at all.

This is a perfectly doable option, it can meet an equal or greater number of Manual of Style requirements as using the dub will, and most importantly it will stop the feuding over names. --tjstrf 19:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's generally following guidelines such as "No original research" or "Use English", even when "Use common names" conflicts somewhat. I even suggested a move against the Japanese manual of style because of the fact that in most English sources for the page involved, their form of romaji was not used. Unfortunately, that exception does not show up in this case, as in the more common dubbing of One Piece, his name is Zolo (the officially English licensed manga and anime), and, also, I said that {{Nihongo}} is perfect for situations like this, where the English name and then the Japanese name is given in one place, such that "Roronoa Zolo (ロロノア・ゾロ, Roronoa Zoro)" would be used in the article, much like on the articles I frequent we have something along the lines of Gougou Sentai Boukenger (轟轟戦隊ボウケンジャー, Gōgō Sentai Bōkenjā), where both spellings are also used. Ryūlóng 22:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been doing some thinking...

I wanna remove the (anime only) written on the techniques that the Naruto characters have used. Answer back to me for your opinion. User:Kabuto Yakushi

Thanks for your opinion. Can you help me remove all of the (anime only) said in the :Main articles: I'd apreciate it a lot. User:Kabuto Yakushi

Whoa!

Hey Geg can you slow down a minute before you change all the Devil Fruits back! Its currently under discussion and its not wise to make so many changes until the discussion is over. I'm not asking you to stop, just not to jump in so soon and change everything, its gonna cause a row otherwise. Wait until the discussion is over and THEN you can change it. Angel Emfrbl 15:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I would give up on the Eneru page with the category naming... That blasted bot just changes it back! Angel Emfrbl 16:25, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page moving

A user and his buddy moved "Seven Warlords of the Seas" to "Shichibukai" - It seems like a group of people are trying to undo all of the dub names in the articles. God, it's annoying! WhisperToMe 02:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wish to crack down on them now, actually. In fact, I've told them that there is no consensus over how to enact the rule, so the issue is still up for dispute. WhisperToMe 04:38, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you don't mind I add my bit here... But there are more people who want it kept the way it is then those who want as 'Seven warlords' (by FAR). Its best to leave it alone, since they will only argue it be changed back... All I want to see is these pages brought up to snuff, nothing else, names are the bottom of the list of things to do. I think we've wasted far too much time arguing over Japanese Vs English dub, so if its written now in Japanese I say leave it for a while, we have too much other stuff to do to worry about minor things like names. Angel Emfrbl 18:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to draw attention to my merge proposal here, since you're one of the regular editors there. Thanks. Axem Titanium 00:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Something you might be interested in

Please go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Dragon Ball special abilities to share your opinion. Hydromasta231 07:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pete Zarustica / Oliver Wyman

You changed the Oliver Wyman page to a redirect to Pete Zarustica with the comment "according to what Eric Stuart told me, Pete and Olver are two different people)" - this seems odd. If they are different people why redirect ? -- Beardo 06:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Safiyya bint Huyayy

Hi, I'm having a bit of a tiff over in that article, I would, it about including the title 'concubine' in the lead paragraph of Safiyya bint Huyayy, who was a Jewish girl whose whole tribe was slain by Mohammad, as described further into that very article. I would appreciate your input in the talk page. FrummerThanThou 02:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One Piece

I'll use the titles from http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=836&page=25, is that cool? But why did you remove the summaries, there correct, at least up to 288. - Peregrinefisher 20:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jonouchi

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katsuya_Jonouchi&diff=69687257&oldid=69686987 = But the characters are...

  • No
  • Uchi

WhisperToMe 23:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Organization XIII Vandalism

I've been doing what I can to revert back to original body text, so to speak, but people continue to add things in such as "Xemnas' name is rearranged to speall Mansex" or "Demyx is believed to be gay" and all that mumbo jumbo. Is it possible to have that page stopped so that only members can edit it? (Can't remember what it's called at the moment) Captain Drake Van Hellsing 08:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I found something, which I added to the article and discussed it roughly on the talk page, as I happened to find another link as well, but I'm just lost on the matter at the moment, as this is the first time I've done this part here in regards to trying to protect a page, sort of thing. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 20:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I asked Benten but he seems to be busy. If you could, seeing as how you seem to have access to the manga, could you fix this up to proper format and provide a source for it? Drake Clawfang 03:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Singapore dub

Hey, Geg. You can watch the Singapore dub on Youtube.

http://www.janime.eu/showthread.php?t=15598 has links to one of the videos.

We can add info on it on Wikipedia.

WhisperToMe 23:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kaiba

The proper name of the card is Lord of D., but it is called Lord of Dragons in the anime. As for Deck Destruction Virus, Kaiba uses it in the movie, and it is a different card from Crush Card. Drake Clawfang 05:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute

When ya can, see the respective talk page for your opinion. Thanks! PL(DB) 17:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One Piece episode titles

Can you tell me how to check if a title is correct, so I can revert more effectively. I googled the title and didn't find it, so there must be a better way. - Peregrine Fisher 20:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Akatsuki

The reason I change those stuff is because I have read 338 and that is actually what happens.

???

What did you say? All you said is "rv" from Invader ZIM.

(not to Geg) I'll take a look, but please try to use {{helpme}} on your talk page. Xiner (talk, email) 18:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invader Zim

Thanks for the clarification and edit. Paul Haymon 02:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Formatting

I'm going to send this message to Benten and JuJube, too. I have no experience in Wikipieda's table formats, so I'd like to suggest to those who may that we clean up the original Yugioh pages with the minor characters to resembled the GX page, which is clean, concise, and organized, whereas the original series pages...aren't. What do you think? Drake Clawfang 01:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A Naruto workgroup

I was wondering if you would be willing to found a Naruto Workgroup under Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga. I think a focus group is needed so that all Naruto articles head in the right direction. To do that a small leadership committee would be needed to create a simple list of prioritized things to do. That group would then delegate tasks to different teams. I am willing to start doing this but would need to collaborate with editors who frequent the Naruto articles. If you would like to help found the workgroup then I'd like to hear your ideas. I have a few of my own and have created a mock-up on User:Squilibob/Naruto. Tell me what you think. --Squilibob 04:59, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This InvaderSora guy has a complaint against you here. JuJube 03:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surpised

I'm suprised that you added Moria the Shichibukai. The standard practice the last few months is to remove anything for One Piece released onto Wikipedia before the the chapter scanlation it out as it is considered "rumour". Neither Arlong Park nor Manga Helpers have released chapter 448. Can you keep to the practice Geg any NOT add the stuff. It may seem a bit out, but its done for a reason. Whether fact or fiction a rumour is a rumour.

Yeah I'm DYING to see Moria's name up there too. I'm as excited to see another Shichibukai as everyone else. Angel Emfrbl 16:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: "okay, what?"

[2]

I placed Image:Gaara 001.jpg as the screen cap for episode 55. That's because the picture's description said "Screenshot from the Naruto anime by Masashi Kishimoto, episode 55." Bleah. Sloppy sourcing. –Gunslinger47 03:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

666 Satan

There wasn't a vote? Afaict there was rough consensus to move to 666 Satan, so it was moved. I guess you're opposed to the move?

Can you tell me your reasons? --Kim Bruning 18:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Akatsukileader.PNG

I orphaned Image:Akatsukileader.PNG in favor of Image:Akatsuki Leader.jpg. –Gunslinger47 23:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Naruto Shippuuden

Is there anyway to see what people are looking for more often? I mean, I know that I type in "Naruto Shippuuden" to get to the plot because it's the quickest way to get there. Maybe you could put a topic on the Plot page asking people what they were looking for when they searched for Naruto Shippuuden, because I can't actually find anything on the Naruto page that even mentions Shippuuden, besides a link to the plot page and the list of episodes.

If the Naruto page had any information about Shippuuden besides the minimal (that it is one of the seasons, which is literally all it has), then it might be the closest, but as it is now, the plot and the list of episodes are the only pages that even mention Shippuuden (besides the personal character pages, which are excluded for obvious reasons).KrytenKoro 01:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, is there any bot or method I could use to find those links and fix them? Because if it truly referring to the series as opposed to the plot, and it's linking to "naruto shippuuden" instead of just Naruto|Naruto Shippuuden, then it's not appropriate.KrytenKoro 01:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sasuke pic

I'm curious, where did you get that artwork of Sasuke?

--Gaiash 20:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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People are wanting to include mention of a fan work

Some people are requesting that people include a fan work here Talk:Yu-Gi-Oh!#yu-gi-oh_the_abridged_series - I am saying no way - It is not notable. WhisperToMe 20:44, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on Editor Review

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Tobi

Yes but even the leader agreed that he was dead. So if the leader agrees then that rules Tobi dead. Am I wrong Geg? Akuba Ketsueki


Yes alright I see you're point with the Sasuke thing. Then I have a feeling Tobi will run into one of Konoha's shinobi. Akuba Ketsueki

  • About Tobi/Madara Uchiha: Since Madara is suggested to be the one who released the Nine tailed fox, and his age is in question, it should be suggested Madara has a means to eternal youth/life. The reasons I dont think it can be SPECULATION is because Madara was around when Konoha was built. Shodai Hokage defeated Madara but it's doubtful he killed him with all these references. There's no reason someone like Shodai Hokage would still be alive today. Sandaime Hokage was 69 before he died and was trained by the 1st and 2nd Hokages. The former Akatsuki members: Sasori, Kakuzu, Orochimaru, and Hidan all cheated death in some way. Sasori being a human puppet, Kakuzu stealing hearts (and fighting the 1st Hokage), Orochimaru stealing bodies, and Hidan just being immortal. Why would they show Jiraiya talking about Madara then unless it means something? Pein is called a God, yet he takes orders from Tobi? There may be some of you thinking Im just trying to throw Tobi a bone for having some ability, while to others it makes perfect sense. Anyway, Id like if someone put back what I changed or tell me why it doesnt belong. Just talk about it, as I really just want people to think about it. I know the regulars here want to protect their free source property of the Akatsuki section of Naruto. Wikipedia is mostly opinions mixed with facts, but there's a large grey area called rumors since the series isnt complete yet. I dont see how much fun people will have here once it is complete and at least this idea has the manga as a source. Much of Akatsuki is still shrouded in mystery, and even the Uchiha clan has a dark secret mentioned MANY times! So there is room to change things later on if Im wrong. Yet try proving why its wrong or right. Jeydo Jeydo 20:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Lashing out

Sorry about lashing out last night. I lost my temper and didn't think through on what i said. But it is hard to tell, I mean, Someone like Madara would never act like Tobi. Think about it. -Tobi4242 15:41, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi.

About the episode number "35" ("An unnecessary addition"/"An unwished addition"), are you sure about the translation? i don't talk japanese, but on it.wiki somebody (not me..) has translated the title with "unwished" in place of "unnecessary". So, i'd thought to edit it on en.wiki too :o). Well, on the italian or the english wikipedia the title is wrong, who knows..lol... If you are sure about the word "unnecessary" then tell me it, so i can fix it on it.wiki. Bye!:)--DrugoNOT (talk) 01:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The correct title is Unwanted Addition. Check it on: http://saiyanisland.com/naruto/?n=1/AirDatesShippuuden Bye.--DrugoNOT (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]