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So E_hp was greater than one to begin with?! Something needs explanation or changing here! <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/{{{IP|{{{User|165.124.116.206}}}}}}|{{{IP|{{{User|165.124.116.206}}}}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{IP|{{{User|165.124.116.206}}}}}}|talk]]) {{{Time|23:06, August 22, 2007 (UTC)}}}</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
So E_hp was greater than one to begin with?! Something needs explanation or changing here! <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/{{{IP|{{{User|165.124.116.206}}}}}}|{{{IP|{{{User|165.124.116.206}}}}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{IP|{{{User|165.124.116.206}}}}}}|talk]]) {{{Time|23:06, August 22, 2007 (UTC)}}}</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Internal combustion engines are not "thermal devices" like furnaces or steam engines. Heat is a byproduct of burning fuel to generate ''pressure''. Heat is actually unwanted, thus radiators and so on. External combustion engines are "thermal devices" because they specifically use heat, to generate pressure.

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What in blazes is going on in the thermal efficiency section? E_hp - E_r = 1 ?!?!

So E_hp was greater than one to begin with?! Something needs explanation or changing here! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.124.116.206 (talk) 23:06, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

Internal combustion engines are not "thermal devices" like furnaces or steam engines. Heat is a byproduct of burning fuel to generate pressure. Heat is actually unwanted, thus radiators and so on. External combustion engines are "thermal devices" because they specifically use heat, to generate pressure.