Talk:Curb Your Enthusiasm

Impact

The Impact section and the section on References to Other HBO Shows is overlapping. These should be combined and just get rid of the impact section since there's nothing really there about it's impact on anything.

Is a sitcom

The previous version said that it isn't a sitcom - it is. A sitcom doesn't need multiple cameras and a laugh track. "Curb" is certainly situational (A rich writer's social foibles). Shapedy 22:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Confusing dates

The opening paragraph mentions the 1999 special that later spawned the series, but the side-box lists an initial airing date in 1998. IMDB lists the initial airing date as October 15 2000, but perhaps someone a bit more familiar with it could clear that up? - DaveR 03:34, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Last episode

What is the wikipedia convention for the last episode date. If the season finale (but not necessarily the series finale) has already taken place and there is a long break until another episode, if any, what do we write for the last episode? CoolGuy 01:57, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

You don't write anything for the final airdate unless it is the last episode. Zone46

Capital Case

A guy named Juan Catalan was cleared of eyewitness-based murder charges and possible execution after footage shot for Curb at a baseball event showed he was 20 miles from the crime scene at the time. It was of significant news in and around LA and could be included in the article. See:

http://www.courttv.com/news/2004/0604/larrydavid_ctv.html

British show with same title?

There was a British show with the same title that is extremely famous in Germany but unheard of in the UK. It is considered by many to be a classic on a par with faulty towers. There was I think only one show and it involved (a butler?) who continues to serve his now lady diner. I do remember the punchline "The same procedure as last year, Miss ((can't remember))" to which she replies "Yes ((butlers name)), the same procedure as last time Mr. ((blank))"

Does anyone know how to find info on this program now that the US show is around?

The show is turning into a legend as great as the One arm kickboxing movie, and I'm beginning to wonder if it's just an urban legend.

An IMDB search for "Curb Your Enthusiasm" lists only the US Larry David show. Sorry, dude. --Jacj 21:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

You're thinking of Dinner for One. --Serge 23:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

And as a non contributor, Dinner for One sucked ass. Sorry. 71.194.6.238 06:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

High definition?

From looking at the images contained on List of Curb Your Enthusiasm episodes, it appears that season 5 was shown in high definition. Is this correct? Was this the first season to do so? Cheers, Lbbzman 00:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Music

I've added information about the music, this information is from the sleeve notes from the album that I own and commissioned, I'm happy for them to be used here before anyone points it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickspace (talk • contribs)

Can anyone explain to me what the hell is going on in the third paragraph of the music section? I'm tempted to delete it because I don't think it's relevant to the music of the show, but I don't understand it, either. Wangoed 14:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Somebody thinks that including in this article a list of tracks from the CD is a copyright violation, in particular violating the copyright of amazon.co.uk [1]. See Wikipedia:Copyright problems#June 19, 2006.--Mathew5000 16:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Oops, my mistake. It isn't the list of tracks that was thought to be a copyright violation, it was the info about the CD in this edit. It is in fact a clear copyright violation as it copies verbatim from the review at Amazon (five paragraphs beginning with "The utterly compelling music"). The copyvio text was added by User:Rickspace, who founded the record label that released the CD. (And guess what, the same user also created the article for the record label he founded.) --Mathew5000 06:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

And if you look at the top of this section you'll see a comment he left on this very matter. Qutezuce 06:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the copyvio tag from this article. Copyvio is to be used when it's not possible to revert back to a version of the page that doesn't have copyright violations. Since only one section of the page is in question, it's more appropriate to just revert. See Wikipedia:Copyright problems#Instructions for details. Cheers, Lbbzman 11:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Why did you guys remove it? I clearly said that it was OK for the article to be used here. --Rickspace 15:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

"A-Listers"

How is David Schwimmer an "A-lister" yet Jason Alexander and Julia-Leyfus Drewis (sorry about my spelling) , also cast in a multi-million dollar generating sitcom are simply "Seinfielders"? maybe it is more relevant, still i wouldn't call Schwimmer A-list when he hasn't really been in the public eye of late.

I think if someone was at one point an A-lister you would still refer to them as one in regards to guest appearances. I think that Seinfielders is a more specific than just any other A-lister, not meant to be a put down to them.

Largo

Largo (nightclub) says that the original HBO special was recorded at that (tiny) nightclub in Los Angeles, CA. Unfortunately it doesn't cite a source that supports that. If one can be found, that would make a nice addition to this article (indeed, a bit more in general about the special might be worthwhile). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Final season?

I see that there is now a mention that the sixth season will be the last for the series. Can we get a citation for this? From what I've heard, every season could be the last until suddenly Larry feels like making a few more ;) Technocratic 13:28, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I also thought that this was the final season, and was surprised when I came to the article page and saw no mention of it being the final season. I just got through watching the season 6 finale, and it certainly seemed like it very well could be the last episode based on the way they wrapped it up with Larry marrying(?)Vivica Fox's character and becoming a part of their family.Aoa8212 06:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Piano Piece Not on Soundtrack

A certain piece of piano music is not on the soundtrack but was used in the show as well as several current A.G. Edwards TV commercials. It's very choppy and catchy. Does anyone know the name or artist of this piece? People across the 'net have been trying to figure this out. Thanks. Cale 07:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually there are several pieces from the show not included on the unofficial soundtrack. Does anyone know the names/composers? 24.88.64.59 03:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)King Negro

One of the pieces used in CYE but not on the UOST is Georges Bizet "Bohemian Dance" from "Carmen Suite" (note: the suite, not the actual opera). It is first featured in the "Interior Decorator" (obviously because the decorator's name is actually Carmen) - a short "jingle" is played when Cheryl introduces Carmen to Larry, a longer version is played starting with the fight at Diane Keaton's house and ending when Larry finally enters the doctor's office. 195.69.82.60 11:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Ewan McGregor?

For some reason Ewan McGregor was said to be Larry's second guide in "The End", so I changed it to Sacha Baron Cohen. Tuwile 07:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

The Book

The book has bulleted "features" listed and does not appear to add anything to the article. Many television shows have episode guides or other related books printed. As a bookseller I have no covert motives here, I just think it's inappropriate for an encylopaedic article. 24.90.138.194 06:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Running Gags

Another running gag that should be added is Larry never having cash with him.

I'd also say that baldness is a recurrent theme/joke, though I'm not sure how to phrase this. Larry regularly refers to bald people as a group (we), and characters also frequently make insults based on Larry's baldness. (Also changed the title of this section rather than create a new one, hope that's ok).

Another possible addition could be the fact that in about 9 shows out of 10, Larry doesn't wear short sleeves or shorts, with a couple of exceptions being the Polo shirts in "Trick or Treat" (Season 2) and when he is swimming at the start of "The Larry David Sandwich" (Season 5). He even wears long sleeves and trousers at the beach and playing tennis. He lives in Los Angeles!

That would probably be more of a personality trait rather than a running gag. Definitely a bit odd, though. ;) ChazBeckett 13:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

"Pret-tay, pret-tay, pret-tay good!" 71.185.231.154 03:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

medical gaze

To look into a person's eyes to find out if he tells the truth is quite an ordinary thing. I don't see why this should be called medical gaze.

I guess there's quite a difference between an ordinary person judging the validity of a statement that another person has made by being aware of this person's facial expressions and LD examining someone else's eyes from up close and from all angles and for half a minute, as if he actually expected to find physical evidence there. :) 62.152.162.122 23:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Correction to Season 5 Plot

In my opinion, Larry being adopted is the major plot for this season and the Kidney for Lewis is a subplot.

For one, The introduction of the adoption plot begins before the kidney plot. It is introduced and is the main part of the first episode, as is the main plot in the prior seasons. The kidney plot does not even get introduced until the 5th episode (of a 10 episode season).

Also, the final episode of Season 5 is dominated by the wrapping up of the adoption plot. In fact, the only reason the kidney plot is wrapped up or included in this episode is because of the solution to the adoption plot.

Overall, it has more general weight to the season.

I think this should be discussed because these seasons will be marked in the future by plot/subplot and therefore it should be correct.

Erik Zarikian 03:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Break tag

Why does this article have the break tag on it and not other article like The Wire? Looks unattractive and like a disclaimer I'll remove it in a week unless I get a response. Aaron Bowen 23:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

trivia?

it doesn't seem to me that this bit of trivia is really related to the show at all

"In the 14th season hallowe'en episode of The Simpsons, Homer kills death and after Marge asked him to take it out to the curb, Homer replies "I'll curb 'em... without enthusiasm.""

to curb ones enthusiasm is a, pretty uncommon, but still used phrase that has existed before and independent of the show

e.g. http://exaggeratedreaction.blogspot.com/

Amirman 03:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Kingsport, Tennesse

I reverted to the previous version of the the article because someone had changed Los Angeles, California to Kingsport, Tennessee and Sienfeld to Trucking in the concept section. For more information on this user (whose edits all relate to Kingsport, it seems) see 71.203.255.140.

Sdoroudi 01:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Jeff Greene

Jeff is not obsessed with sex as described in his short description. That is misleading. Does anyone else agree? pickleops

• Jeff is obsessed with sex. I'll look up the character bio on HBO. Lordofthe9 18:21, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Curb Your Enthusiasm Title Card.JPG

Image:Curb Your Enthusiasm Title Card.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 20:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Popular culture section

Here we have yet another pointless trivia section, for which I have added the trivia template. Unless someone can think of a way to incorporate these almost completely irrelevant facts elsewhere in the article, I propose we delete the whole section. There is not one notable piece of information among them. Straussian (talk) 12:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, well seeing as no one's objected, I'm moving entire section here. If anyone really thinks any of these factoids are notable, verifiable, and worthy of inclusion in the article's prose, then please do your worst. Straussian (talk) 03:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Someone has since restored this triva section. I asked that anyone who disagrees with me removing it discuss it here, but no one was forthcoming. Let me point out that the onus is on whoever thinks it should remain to explain why any of this is notable/encyclopedic, not for me to justify my deletion. Wikipedia policy is clear that trivia sections are discouraged, and seriously, most of the entries in this list are obscure to the point of parody. If anyone really thinks these "facts" need to stay then it is their responsibility to work them into the prose of the article. Let's discuss it here instead of reverting the removal. Straussian (talk) 13:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I hadn't seen your first post before I reverted. I agree that some of this stuff could be pruned out, but I think others are relevant. For example its noteworthy that Curb inspired the creation of two other shows. And the Curb references in other popular TV shows add to its credibility.

Maybe some of this stuff can be moved to a new section ("Impact" maybe)? -Roger (talk) 14:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I would certainly support the inclusion of information regarding the shows that Curb has inspired, as long as reliable sources can be found to support this. Straussian (talk) 14:21, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

References in other popular culture

• In "Making a Stand", an episode of Arrested Development, Rolando asks Michael if the improvisation will be "unscripted like Curb". The same scene involves the actor Lobo Sebastian, who played Jesus in the "Christ Nail" episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

• In the 2005 movie The Upside of Anger, Kevin Costner's character and two girls are watching TV, and though the screen is never shown and the sound barely audible, closed captioning confirms they are watching Curb Your Enthusiasm. They are watching "Trick or Treat", where Larry is complaining about two girls defacing his house after he refuses to give them candy. Mike Binder, who directed "The Upside of Anger", appeared in the CYE Season 2 episode "The Massage".

• In The Sopranos episode "Where's Johnny?", Junior Soprano is seen watching the episode "The Doll". Due to his increasing dementia, he mistakes Larry David for himself and Jeff Garlin for Bobby Baccalieri, and is confused as to why they are on television.

• In "Hamburger", an episode of Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!, music commonly used in episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm plays during awkward interactions between the title duo and comedian Neil Hamburger. The "Frolic" theme song to Curb Your Enthusiasm also plays over the end credits sequence.

• In "Radio Friendly", track 6 on Abdominal's first album, "Escape From The Pigeon Hole", CYE is referenced as being a good TV show (along with Arrested Development and Ali G).

• In the song 'The Heist' by Incredibad (the hip-hop group from The Lonely Island):

"Yo what wacky circumstances to lead all of this to happen

yo it's just like on fuckin' Seinfeld or Curb Enthusiasm

those were both by Larry David

no doubt Dunny, that's true..."

• In 2005, Danish comedians Frank Hvam and Casper Christensen created the comedy series Klovn, which is inspired by Curb Your Enthusiasm.

• Starting in 2005, German comedian Bastian Pastewka produced the comedy series Pastewka, which was loosely based on CYE. Though scripted and not improvised (as CYE is), similarities extend to its title theme which closely resembles CYE's original ("Frolic" by Luciano Michelini).

• In an episode of Family Guy, a flash-back shows Luke Skywalker in Star Wars Episode IV, just before the assault on the Death Star. In the famous scene Luke calls out one of the rebel pilots who says they will never be able to hit the small power core target, but Luke claims he hunted womp rats on Tatooine so its no problem. The rebel pilot is offended and asks to speak to Luke in private. When he talks to Luke there is a clear reference to Curb. Luke acts defensively like Larry, and won't admit he was wrong to call the pilot out. The scene ends with Luke being called a jerk, the Curb music, and a close up of Luke's face.

• Marc M. of the website Sick Animation references the show in his song "Halloween Costume Contest":

This Halloween I was thinking that I’d maybe

Go dressed like Larry David

If I can find the right glasses then I would

Look pretty pretty pretty good