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I would like to see what "peacock terms" are used in this article to cause a dispute in it's neutrality. I don't see anywhere in the article information that boasts about the achievements of the person the article is based upon that isn't cited. In no way in this article is this person referred to as a great person or a better person than anyone. This article only shows this person's achievements that actually make this article worthy of mention. Unless someone can find these "peacock terms" and present them, I'm asking for this "neutrality dispute" to end, along with the mention of "peacock terms" as it is a taint to the article as a whole. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.9.38.128|24.9.38.128]] ([[User talk:24.9.38.128|talk]]) 20:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
I would like to see what "peacock terms" are used in this article to cause a dispute in it's neutrality. I don't see anywhere in the article information that boasts about the achievements of the person the article is based upon that isn't cited. In no way in this article is this person referred to as a great person or a better person than anyone. This article only shows this person's achievements that actually make this article worthy of mention. Unless someone can find these "peacock terms" and present them, I'm asking for this "neutrality dispute" to end, along with the mention of "peacock terms" as it is a taint to the article as a whole. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.9.38.128|24.9.38.128]] ([[User talk:24.9.38.128|talk]]) 20:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I would like to see what "peacock terms" are used in this article to cause a dispute in it's neutrality. I don't see anywhere in the article information that boasts about the achievements of the person the article is based upon that isn't cited. In no way in this article is this person referred to as a great person or a better person than anyone. This article only shows this person's achievements that actually make this article worthy of mention. Unless someone can find these "peacock terms" and present them, I'm asking for this "neutrality dispute" to end, along with the mention of "peacock terms" as it is a taint to the article as a whole. [[User:INSBDominator|INSBDominator]] |
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"F.T.I"
Would anyone mind working on putting some information up about the FTI campaign? I think it's notable, as it's a a fairly prominent case of file-sharing boosting album sales, as well as the protests staged over the Kazaa ruling.
Much like the whole "Tec-9/Technique Number N9ne" thing, when I find some time I'll try and get some information on this added in using the T9X DVD and a couple articles as sources. Someone else is free too if I don't get to it before them. I agree, this was a significant event, so it should be covered at least to some extent. Mizery Made 15:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Killer
I can't find any source for the fact, that there is an album called Killer to be released in 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.171.100.180 (talk) 22:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- There, just added a source for you. Mizery Made 00:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.171.91.4 (talk) 10:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
i have even heard tech n9ne him self say that he is working on a new album called "killer" and it should be coming out in march 08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.137.140 (talk) 04:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
What happened to what was here?
What happened to what was here? It used to talk about how his uncle got him into rap and his christian background.The Clydelishes Clyde 02:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Misconception
This article states that Tech N9ne stands for the gun, this is not true. As Tech says in many of his albums it stands for Technique Number 9, which he claims to be his rapping style. They need to change this. Tech dominates all.
So you're going to go ahead and believe something as ignorant as that? Honestly, it's like these stoner girls I know who say "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is not about drugs, it's about a drawing his kid drew and blah blah blah." You're just going to assume that he coincidentally came up with 8 rapping styles and wasnt happy til the ninth one, and decided to name it, also very coincidentally, the same name as a gun? Spare me. Vicious203 14:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
The first comment is right, tech explained that a thousand times. Furthermore he doesnt talk about weapons in his songs, so i do believe him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.171.100.180 (talk) 22:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Its his favorite number as well, stating that a cat has 9 lives, 9 months of pregnancy etc. Why would he name himself after a gun, that doesnt even make sense, and is a totally ignorant statement. The gun is TEC-9, not a tech n9ne, anyway.
Not true about Tech not having weapons references. They're rarer than most rappers, but for example, look at "Riotmaker" off of Everready. He explains that it's "Not like I said get a pistol and use it" and then in the next verse references a marine acquaintance that was killed by missile fire. Also off Everready is the "My World" intro, 'We tote big guns instead of a knife' and 'You got a job, I ain't got one, you got a wad, I got a shotgun'. 64.122.17.52 11:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Tino
Either way, it's common knowledge that techs name stands for technique number 9, he's explained it in video blogs and magazines and on stage numerous times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.72.168 (talk) 22:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
On many sites that i have been to is does quote that tech n9ne did state that his name stands for technique number 9
On the Everready album's song "No Can Do" he says: "It's the one/With the name of a gun/Look at me momma what I've become". While he may describe it as Technique Nine, he's also quite aware that it's a reference to the gun. 71.243.88.176 15:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
If you have seen the T9X DVD then you would know where the name originates. When he rapped for Black Walt, Walt said he rapped like a gun, thus they went to Walt's house, flipped through a gun mag, on the very last page was an ad for a Tec-9, that's when they said, "That's it!" Tech goes on to explain that while that's where the initial idea came from, he wanted it to be different and thus spelt it "Tech" as in "Technique" & "N9ne" citing 9 as the number of completion, the whole nine yards, etc. One of these days when I get time I'll put the DVD in and get quotes & Time Codes for this part to add all this in and source it. Unless someone else has the DVD and wants to. Mizery Made 15:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
A message for '72.24.99.246'
Keep your losers comments to your self, don't post them on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.197.115 (talk • contribs) 18:09, November 17, 2005 (UTC)
- General Bison — Preceding unsigned comment added by General Bison (talk • contribs) 08:16, February 7, 2006 (UTC)
old user,first time poster
Wow.........I think I'll go ahead and edit this since it's complete and utter horse poop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donman (talk • contribs) 22:49, January 28, 2006 (UTC)
heathead
This article still needs to be rewritten. Alot of it is cut-and-pasted from www.rockkansas.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heathead (talk • contribs) 14:08, February 11, 2006 (UTC)
Rewrite it then! Rockkansas.com isn't complaining. 09:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
gun name
No reference to the gun after which he takes his name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.95.19.42 (talk • contribs) 15:44, March 24, 2006 (UTC)
His name aint the gun its the sex position
No, watch the Tech N9ne Experience DVD and he says, that his name was derived from the gun, because he raps fast as a "motherF**ker" and the gun shoots fast as a "motherF**ker" and that his how he got his name, get your facts right before speaking!
also ina lyric he states "the one with the name of a gun" . <-- Which song?
"Listen to the villian wit a gun associated tongue" in Absolute Power. See above discussions though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.189.144 (talk) 23:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Tech clearly states in Everready's "No Can Do" That he is 'The one with the name of a gun' in the very first verse.64.122.17.52 11:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Tino
Just because he is aware there is a gun named that doesn't mean it's how he came up with the name, it only means he's utilizing similarities as tools for his rhymes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.72.168 (talk) 22:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
On many sites that i have been to it quotes that tech n9ne did state that his name stands for technique number 9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.137.140 (talk) 04:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
What happened?
All the information is gone, this page looks bare compared to months ago, this has gone WAY too far. And people wonder why I hate Wikipedia, too many standards and retards. WACK!
Mizery Made 05:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree, narrow-minded nerds get involved, wanting to condescend and pretend to have a better idea, but they don't add improvements, all they do is strip the entry of information, add a bunch of "citation neededs," and eliminate information which the average reader wants to see. If they think citations are needed, let them add the information! Otherwise, they should STFU, and quite vandalizing entry after entry. 07:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
yeah man wtf, I can't find the interview I read of his awhile back where he stated where his named came from.
IT DID NOT COME FROM THE GUN, that's partially why.
it came from 9 being the ultimate number, Technique Number 9; 3+6=9, 360 is a complete revolution, which sum's up his rapping style because he has "rapped with the illest mutha fuckas the game has ever seen, from Tupac to Eminem, to Bone, all them niggas". a cat has 9 lives. 3x3=9, 339, 3+3+9=15, age when he started doing performances. and a bunch more —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.248.76.215 (talk) 19:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Tech N9ne and the Article
You all have to keep in mind that this isn't a place to promote Tech N9ne, or his music. It is here to provide facts and be a biographical source for him and his music. It also must be constructive and reasonable as well as appropriate. Yes I'm a Tech N9ne fan, but that doesn't mean I will advertise him or his music through an ENCYCLOPEDIA. --KCMODevin 01:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Tech N9ne is hard as F**ck stop deleting his page
Blood?
He says in alot of his raps that he's down with the red rags (Possibly Blood affiliation) and this would also explain the red hair and clothing, so, any sources?
well latley at his live concerts he wears more face paint and is now earing black scrubs with a clean shaven head red could just be a favorite color or a gimmick that went along with absolute power but now that hes on his everready "era" if you will hes using alot of black and grays (ive seen hime 4 times this year thats my source)
In an interview with JUICE (biggest european magazine for hip hop culture, from germany), he says that black and red are his favourite colors, and in a video interview he explains that he only cut off his hair cuz it was falling out(due to the color).
Another, more substantiated theory claims that the red rags are due to his Juggalo connections. Tech refers to himself and those around him as 'Killa Clowns', makes references to groupies as 'Juggalettes', and also performs with various Psychopathic Records artists such as Twiztid and Boondox. Tech shares a fan base with such groups as Psychopathic Records' Insane Clown Posse (Fans are called Juggalos/lettes and wear red as a common colour of identifying reference) and Suburban Noize Records' Kottonmouth Kings. This is likely because many of the demographics of these bands are in the same range as each other.64.122.17.52 11:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Tino
In another interview he also said that he GREW up in a blood neighbourhood, but never was one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.35.1.57 (talk) 09:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Tech is a blood but now hes gettin older and more mature and not so worried about B's and C's cuz now he is tryin to broadin his music, by doin songs with T- nutty and brotha lynch hung (both well known crips). in an interview on the dvd state 2 state- T-nutty, hes asked if him and tnutty would ever do a song together after answering hell yeah, hes then asked "b's and c's on the same track? and tech responds saying "fo sho its all love baby" plus i heard tech talk about his blood ni**as in concert so ur all retarded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.137.108.175 (talk) 04:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
HE IS NOT A GROUP!
It is a guy, so I am going to take the tag off the bottom.
You're right, but in live concerts he always performs with Kutt Calhoun and Big Krizz Kaliko.
Lots of solo rappers perform with people, that doesn't make any of them a group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.72.168 (talk) 22:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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Seems rather uninformative
The introduction doesn't seem very encyclopedic. To me, it sounds rather similar to something a 6th grader would write for a school newspaper. This part especially:
"In 1985, Aaron "Tech N9ne" Yates found his calling. On a dare, he picked up a pen and wrote a rhyme. The next day he went to school and performed that rhyme. His life has never been the same. In the 17 years since that day, this motor-mouthed rapper has performed sold out shows from L.A. to New York."
I don't think it's very informative, nor does it cite its sources. Consider revising. Vicious203 14:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- i agree... it also has a fan-site presence about it... almost feels like exaggerations or superficial claims at some parts, and alot of it feels biased (ex: "most prominent MC in his hometown of Kansas City")... i tagged it, rather than theying to fix it up because i don't know much about the artist (tech n9ne is one of only 2 rappers i like). --AN, 19:20, 7.Oct.2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.189.73 (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Personal Life?
Why is there zero information on his personal life? kids, wife etc? MrM 01:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- kind of a little to personal, nobody knows much other than hes got 3 kids and hes divorcedWiggl3sLimited 17:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Caribou Lou
It is stated in the Music Video section that there is a video for Caribou Lou, or one that is not released yet. Can we please have a citation as to where this video is or or an article that states that production on such a video has started? If no citation is cited, I'm requesting that this information be destroyed as it is uninformative and misleading to the article as a whole. INSBDominator 21:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)INSBDominator
Page Revision
I did a quick revision of the start of the page to reflect a more objective viewpoint of the artist. I tried to reword the first paragraph to sound less blindly congratulatory, and added a line to the end of it which was my best attempt to say (without citations) that he's "underground but famous". I also tweaked the beginning of the "Career" section and removed the comment about having five albums selling over 550,000 copies as I couldn't make it sound like anything that was relevant enough to quote. Plus, I couldn't look up info on it to back it up. 71.243.88.176 15:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
"... and removed the comment about having five albums selling over 550,000 copies... Plus, I couldn't look up info on it to back it up." There is information backing that up already present in the article. Using only the sourced figures in the Discography, you get a total of 585,511 copies sold. Those figures come from only 5 albums. (Anghellic, Absolute Power, Vintage Tech, Everready & Misery Loves Kompany) Mizery Made 15:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
My main point, if you'll notice, was that it wasn't worth putting in that information. Artists aren't referenced by how many albums their entire discography has sold. I realize that it's a reflection on his work outside of the mainstream continuing to sell, but it's not objective and doesn't match up with other pages on Wikipedia. If it were mentioned in a seperate heading explaining his uniqueness from most other artists then it might make more sense. Otherwise it's bragging, or "peacocking" as Wikipedia is claiming.PseudoSherlock (talk) 17:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Sobman paragraph
I've remove this material for a couple of reasons. The footage used to put together this video comes from an earlier interview done by the same guy. Nothing new is said, it's just clips of that prior interview that refer to Sobman. In cutting the video like this, it leads to that final statement being taken out of context. When saying he wouldn't (actually they wouldn't) be recording anymore music, it was in regards to the Kabosh project. He was stating that until they got the band put together, they wouldn't be doing any recording for the project, seeing as they wouldn't have the full band yet. Also, I fail to see how this is of any real importance.Mizery Made (talk) 07:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Neutrality Dispute
I would like to see what "peacock terms" are used in this article to cause a dispute in it's neutrality. I don't see anywhere in the article information that boasts about the achievements of the person the article is based upon that isn't cited. In no way in this article is this person referred to as a great person or a better person than anyone. This article only shows this person's achievements that actually make this article worthy of mention. Unless someone can find these "peacock terms" and present them, I'm asking for this "neutrality dispute" to end, along with the mention of "peacock terms" as it is a taint to the article as a whole. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.38.128 (talk) 20:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Neutrality Dispute
I would like to see what "peacock terms" are used in this article to cause a dispute in it's neutrality. I don't see anywhere in the article information that boasts about the achievements of the person the article is based upon that isn't cited. In no way in this article is this person referred to as a great person or a better person than anyone. This article only shows this person's achievements that actually make this article worthy of mention. Unless someone can find these "peacock terms" and present them, I'm asking for this "neutrality dispute" to end, along with the mention of "peacock terms" as it is a taint to the article as a whole. INSBDominator (UTC)