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University of California Students Association

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Local student government organization. No WP:Reliable Sources. No assertion of WP:Notability. Merge to main page contested. RedShiftPA (talk) 17:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of university deletions. —RedShiftPA (talk) 17:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep: I agree that there are no reliable sources found in the article itself, but it appears that there are a number of quality sources out there which have yet to be utilized. This organization seems to be notable enough to satisfy WP:ORG because it a) is not local in scope b) is referred to in over 170 news articles and c) has legitimate legislative and governmental purposes (i.e. the org doesn't have merely trivial coverage).—Noetic Sage 17:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - I am not seeing any reliable sources commenting on the body as an entity. TerriersFan (talk) 22:57, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep Per Noeticsage. Amerique^dialectics 17:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - Inherently notable. Wikipedia has no deadline. GreenJoe 18:02, 16 March 2008 (UTC) To expand on my keep, this is the largest SA in the state. They directly lobby to the legislature. They represent a huge number of students. GreenJoe 00:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Please cite the guideline which states that it is inherently notable simply for existing. --Dhartung | Talk 21:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - obviously no basis for this claim. TerriersFan (talk) 22:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment "This is an essay; it contains the advice and/or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. It is not a policy or guideline, and editors are not obliged to follow it.". - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 03:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - I'm not seeing any non-trivial coverage.--Michael White^T·C 21:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - student bodies have to meet WP:ORG. This requires significant secondary sources. This page hasn't them and thus clearly fails notability standards. TerriersFan (talk) 22:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge, without the list, to University of California. Although that article is long, a couple of more sentences won't hurt. This is an umbrella organization, and deserves a mention because people might not suspect that it exists, unlike the ubiquitous student governments every university has. Paddy Simcox (talk) 23:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep (or if delete, then merge+redirect) as per User:Noeticsage in addition to other sources that I'm probably gathering a list for this one in a little bit to establish better notability. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 01:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge to University of California per Paddy Simcox. Lovelac7 04:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep There seems to be some failure to discriminate between those students clubs that have no particular genreal interest, and the student organisations which represent what is in practice the major division of a university. Have all of us here who have gone through college ignored everything but the classwork?DGG (talk) 22:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, I was a member of one of the graduate student sub-organizations of this organization. We had a couple of meetings, ordered pizza and debated the toppings. We sent a representative up to the main meeting, the decision was based on somebody wanting to visit their parents. Lord Uniscorn (talk) 11:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)