Talk:The Feast of the Goat

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Adamk, nice article. A couple of things:

• we don't use HTML for basic formatting; pls see: Wikipedia:How to edit a page. The reason for this is that it makes the system easier for people to use who don't know HTML.
• don't overdo the wiki links for basic nouns, etc.
• I also removed the following paragraph:

The Feast of the Goat is destined to become one of the classics of 20th-century Latin American literature along with some of Gabriel García Márquez's finer works. Indeed, it is written much like a reworking of Márquez's The Autumn of the Patriarch, a superb novel which used Trujillo as one of the many dictators in its composite protagonist.

it isn't encylopedic. If you want to quote other reviewers, that would be ok, but we need to maintain a neutral voice ourselves.

-- Viajero 19:47, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It is worth mentioning that those people Vargas Llosa interviewed in the Dominican republic as well as many historians denounced the book as a total work of fiction, not the ´historical´novel he promised them it would be. Although inspired in real characters, they are but a pale specter of the historical facts and personalities. Currently, Vargas Llosa´s popularity has been low (as per book sales) in the Dominican Republic, as the general sentiment in the press and the media, is that he presented a distorted story based on the goodwill of many old timers who overcame many traumas to talk about their experiences during the dictatorship of Trujillo.

Just a excerpt from The Picture of Dorian Grey by Oscar Wilde:

The artist is the creator of beautiful things...To reveal art and conceal the artist is art's aim...There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written...That is all...

Structure

This article needs some kind of structure, with subheadings etc., that can be filled out as we come up with documented information about the book. You could look at the Novels project guidelines, though note that other feature articles on books and novels don't necessarily follow the structure given:: there's a list of them here and here. --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 10:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

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B-class rating

Ok, first you guys should read a post that I left a few minutes ago for your classmates at: Augusto Roa Bastos, with an explanation of the rating system. Now concerning this article, it also needs expanding. The Characters and especially the Major themes sections need to be expanded. The article definitely needs more sources to go along with the expanding and after that’s done the Lead section needs to be lengthened, Ideally it should be a short summary of the rest of the article. You guys add a few more paragraphs to this article and I'll be happy to up rate it :) Acer (talk) 11:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey under MAJOR THEMES i think there is a mistake but its cited so i dont want to change it without checking with whoever put it in. it says "throughout this book, llosa paints a picture of peruvian society that is both tender and severe."... however, the book doesnt take place in Peru, its in the Dominican. (I think the mistake is because he is Peruvian himself.) Please fix! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnybeddow (talk • contribs) 20:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

B-class. But needs work. For example, the WP:LEAD. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 20:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Andrew B. Wolf reference? Plus other sources

Good to see that this article is up and running now. We need the full Andrew B. Wolf reference. And more generally, we still need a bunch more reliable sources. Though I recognize that there will be fewer for this novel than for others, and that you'll be relying relatively heavily on reviews: it's only been out a few years. But no problem: it can just be a shorter article! Still, there will be journal articles out there, too, for instance. And references for the historical background --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 07:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Sunnybeddow (talk) 20:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)hey prof i updated the andrew wolf reference. i have a few more references similar that im working on, but they are dissertations (and thus like 300 pages each) and there is very little info on this book at all. i have no idea what happened to our notes section, we just noticed it. no idea how to fix it. sunny

References

The following references were on the article page, but not doing anything. I'm putting them here in case they can become useful. You'd have thought some of them would.

• Moses, Michael Valdez. "Big Daddy: the dictator novel and the liberation of Latin America.(The Feast of the Goat)"

• Paz Soldán, Edmundo. "Deconstructing Dictators" Foreign Policy 130 (May - Jun., 2002): 88+90.

• Encyclopedia of Contemporary Latin American and Caribbean Cultures. Editors: Daniel Balderston, Mike Gonzalez, and Ana M. López. Volume 3. Routledge: New York, New York. 2000.

• Encyclopedia of Latin America. Editor: Helen Delpar. McGraw-Hill: New York, New York. 1974.

• Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture. Editor: Barbara A. Tenenbaum. Volume 5. Charles Scribner's Sons: New York, New York. 1996.

• A review of the film available at http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/opinion/2006/3/14/11317/Film-The-Feast-of-the-Goat-reviewed

• Current Productions available at: http://repertorio.org/productions/index.php?area=ind&id=52&PHPSESSID=d2e08f5ebfc601fa907e31643fddb287

--jbmurray (talk|contribs) 08:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

And the following are poor sources, which should be replaced:

• http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/vargas/fiestac.htm#ours
• http://www.themodernword.com/reviews/feastofthegoat.html

In any case, the second one is down at the moment. --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 08:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)