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== Yahoo's continuous policy changes; illegal? ==
== Yahoo's continuous policy changes; illegal? ==
On the Yahoo email sign-on screen, the following sentence is written: 'We have updated our privacy policy. Please click here to see the changes.' This statement has been there for a few months now. This was most likely intended for people to read after the initial Yahoo policy change, but not, with it left there, Yahoo can continue to make changes to their policy and people will be unaware of this. This is misleading.
On the Yahoo email sign-on screen, the following sentence is written: 'We have updated our privacy policy. Please click here to see the changes.' This statement has been there for a few months now. This was most likely intended for people to read after the initial Yahoo policy change, but now, with it left there, Yahoo can continue to make changes to their policy and people will be unaware of this. This is misleading.
It would be better if they can add a date to this sentence to state when the last update to that policy was. At the moment, without a date, Yahoo has an easy way of continuously amending their policy without its members be any wiser of it. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Elboertjie|Elboertjie]] ([[User talk:Elboertjie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Elboertjie|contribs]]) 09:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
It would be better if they can add a date to this sentence to state when the last update to that policy was. At the moment, without a date, Yahoo has an easy way of continuously amending their policy without its members be any wiser of it. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Elboertjie|Elboertjie]] ([[User talk:Elboertjie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Elboertjie|contribs]]) 09:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Monitor?

When I check my Yahoo email lately I randomly get a popup(?) titled "monitor". I noticed that someone had asked about this in "Yahoo Answers" but the question had been deleted. Anyone know anything about this and if so, would this be something that should go into the Yahoo Mail page here? -A. 10:51 July 20, 2007 yup yup yup yup yup yuo yup yup yup yup

"Monitor" becomes an ad when left alone.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6747/26536340bq5.jpg 6:23 July 24, 2007

Everytime I ask about this in Yahoo answers they delete the question. "Question has been deleted. Sorry, we had to remove that question. The question violated community guidelines" Shady? Just a bit? J C 1:13AM July 30th, 2007

Looks to me like either a genuine survey (in which case you'll answer a few questions and then it goes away forever) or a marketing data harvester, in which case you'll be asked for other info such as salary, postcode and email address, probably -after- answering a load of survey questions.
Have you tried pressing the 'No Thanks' button :-)


Either that, or get a better popup/advert/script blocker. There are great ones available for Firefox, and similar for Internet Explorer I expect (sorry, I don't 'do' IE these days).
Deleting the question on Yahoo answers, assuming it's nicely worded and in the correct forum, sounds quite cowardly/weasely/ignorant (take your pick) to me. EasyTarget 15:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No delivery problem?

is anyone else having trouble with sending/receiving mails on Yahoo Mail beta? I got this mail after contacting the support:

Hello Ivan,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

We're glad to have this opportunity to assist you with this issue. We understand your messages are not being received by your recipients.

Please be assured that we are aware of this issue and have escalated this to our Engineering Department for further investigation. We hope to have it resolved as soon as possible.

We appreciate your patience while we look into the issue and apologize for the inconvenience.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Mail.

Regards,

Chumlee

--Ivan Ivanković 20:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nickname Problem

As from January 2007, I have noticed that the nickname feature (when you have "automatically complete" turned off and just type the nickname into either the To:, CC: or BCC: field) has broken and just keeps returning a syntax error.

It seems to be affecting everyone and there is numerous posts about it (search a search-engine with strings such-as "yahoo nickname problem" to see). Is this worth mentioning on the main page? I'm not going to add it myself, as, because it has only been mentioned in forums and not officially by Yahoo!, it does not class under Wikipedia as a "validly cited reference".

If anyone can find a link to an official Yahoo! help page mentioning the error, please add this information onto the main page. Thanks!

E-mail war

"An e-mail war between Yahoo!, Microsoft, and Google" How is Microsoft into this war ? Any references ? Jay 12:11, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Several websites have been reporting that Hotmail has already given free 25 MB quota upgrades to some of its free users: [1] [2] [3] [4] -- Vesta 13:10, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Has any hotmail user moved upto 25MB ? Or any official statement by Microsoft or Hotmail that says there is an upgrade ? I think the contents of the articles are just the views of some authors, and maybe there's nothing official thats happening. Jay 13:32, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
That is a good point.. I'll reword the sentence in the article in a minute. See if those changes are somewhat more accurate. :) -- Vesta 16:46, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
UPDATE: Microsoft confirmed that the quota is going up (250 MB) in the fall. It's listed directly on Hotmail.com. -- Vesta 03:56, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Here's a link The free Hotmail account has a 250mb quota

Mocha eval expression filters

Is the "mocha eval expression" filter thing true (anymore)? I just tried it and no words were changed and no underscores were added.

Is this too POV?

I was about to add this to the page, but feel it may be a little too POV:

When Yahoo increased their quota to 100mb, they also removed a couple of featurs that many users found useful:

  • Some older accounts had free POP3 access; this access was removed when the upgrade happened.
  • It used to be possible to write messages in raw HTML by clicking on a checkbox marked "this mail is in HTML". After the upgrade, Internet Explorer is the only browser that allows people to write non-ASCII email messages, and even that no longer allows direct editing of HTML in emails.

Samboy 22:06, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Merge?

There has been suggestion that too many of Yahoo!'s services have their own pages. This is a borderline case, so please discuss at Talk:Yahoo!. - IMSoP 15:36, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

History???

Is it really necessary to have a seperate heading 'History'? Anyway there's very little about the history of yahoo mail in this page. Jam2k 17:10, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)

Maybe the intention was that once the article was expanded a bit, there would be plenty to say about its history. After all, there's very little about anything here at the moment. But please, feel free to expand, refactor, and generally improve the article in whatever way you think is appropriate - be bold! - IMSoP 17:43, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

No 'Save sent items'

After the upgrade to 250MB the 'Save Sent Items' option is gone! Maybe they felt its not needed anymore. Anything else found missing?Jam2k 11:30, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

The "Save sent items" feature is now automatic for every message; you can enable or disable this in "Preferences."

Can anyone update the login page screenshot?

Can anyone update the login page screenshot? Current one shows that Yahoo! Mail gives 250 MB to its users. Capacity of free account is now 1 GB. 85.99.152.213 22:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Free POP3 Access

I get free POP3 access. My account is a yahoo.com.au email account. So the article is WRONG in what it says about free accounts. Dankru 05:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

International website do not follow the same strategy as yahoo.com accounts. I had a yahoo.fr email address and in order to get pop for free I had to subscribe to some yahoo-related or Yahoo-partners newsletters. That was about 3 years ago. Guillaumeb

Any options for direct navigation of yahoo mail?

I have abt 2000 mails in my Inbox (thanks to the whopping 1GB inbox provided by Yahoo). Now if I have to reach the 1000th email, do I have to click 'Next' 40 times? Is there no easier means of reaching the 1000th mail directly?

Ummmmm ... do you need to have all those messages in your Inbox? Can you move them to a subfolder (call it "Saved" or something like that) and just use your Inbox for stuff you need to take action on? That's how I do it. --MrWhipple 06:42, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! One of the best features of Yahoo! Mail is the ability to search your mails. Above the list of e-mails in your inbox there should be a box labeled search, here you can type in the name of the sender or even a phrase found in the e-mail you are looking for and it will bring you a list of all the matching e-mails.

Cleanup

I added the cleanup tag. The history section is written in the form of a personal story. I'm sorry that I don't have the time to rewrite it myself, but hopefully this tag will at least draw attention to it. kmccoy (talk) 10:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will concur with the above user and add that this article really needs to updated to reflect previous "premium" e-mail services from Yahoo!. Having used Yahoo mail since 2000 and subscribing to its premium services a year later, I recall a time when yahoo had about two-three additional plans of varying capacities, like 25MB, 50MB, and 100MB. I will have to review my account information but I think I purchased the 25MB plan a few months before the "one-size-fits-all" 2GB plan. Hopefully someone with a better memory or reputable source can add/elaborate on this.--Kenn Caesius 21:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The comparison with Gmail is 95% biased. Yahoo Mail lacks lots of features that Gmail has. And Gmail uses AJAX while Yahoo still not. Yahoo Mail certainly is not the best webmailer. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 05:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Deleting the comparison unless someone can provide sources for the statistic that "the majority of Internet users still consider Yahoo Mail to be the premier webmail service"--Darkhunger 02:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

new anti spam action

I just saw while sending an email I had to enter a confirmation code. Is this new? And should it be added? Matt "AgentA" 03:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

add info on Unable to process request at this time -- error 999

Unable to process request at this time -- error 999

we need an article on errors, like this error that appears to be a bandwidth restrector.


Unable to process request at this time -- error 999 Unfortunately, we are unable to process your request at this time. We apologize for the inconvenience. Please try again later.

AOL competitor to Yahoo! Mail?

"Yahoo!'s major competitors include Gmail, AIM Mail, AOL, and Hotmail."

AIM Mail, Gmail and Hotmail are competitors to Yahoo! Mail, but is AOL a competitor? AIM Mail is provided by AOL, I understand.

Also, it shouldn't be "Yahoo!'s major competiors". It should be "Yahoo! Mail's major competitors".

If no one corrects this, I will do so. Please discuss here.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think AOL is definitely one of Yahoo! Mail's major competitors. So many people use AOL. Oh yeah, you can go ahead and change "Yahoo!'s major competiors" to "Yahoo! Mail's major competitors". —Mets501talk 01:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I will change it to "Yahoo! Mail's major competitors". However, AOL is not a webmail service. AIM Mail is. AOL may compete with Yahoo!, but not Yahoo! Mail. Do you see the difference?
In addition, I have created Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yahoo! to encourage users to add the exclamation mark to Yahoo! in Yahoo!-related articles where neccesary. In the Yahoo! Mail article, there are 3 instances of the exclamation mark being omitted. I will add them. Please contribute to the WikiProject. Thanks. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 02:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prepended

The article says:

Sending a test email from a non-Yahoo! Mail account to a Yahoo! Mail account with the words "Mocha", "eval", "Javascript," and "expression" in a sentence resulted in the Yahoo! Mail filters prepending an "_" (underscore) to those words, resulting in "_Mocha", "_eval", "_Javascript" and "_expression". This prepending obviously removes the threat of the words acting as commands via the program's HTML function by rendering them as non-commands or unrecognizable commands.
As of 2006-06-09, only the terms "expression" and "javascript" were prepended with an underscore ("_").

I tried sending email to a Yahoo mail account and the words expression weren't changed in any way.

Maybe i'm not testing it the right way, so i'll let the experts change it. --Amir E. Aharoni 07:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number of registered email accounts

Is there any documentation about the number of registered email aaccoutns?

Unicode support (or lack thereof)

Does Yahoo Mail support Unicode? From my experience, no. I suppose it should be mentioned in this article. Of all people in the world, the majority can't stick with the so-called 'English' characters. Moreover, Yahoo doesn't even support extended ASCII charsets. Jancikotuc 14:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unlimited?

No one ever can, or ever will offer unlimited storage. So, anyone who claims to do so is hiding the actual limits. Which is bad, and confusing for everyone. So, the actual limits should be documented in the article, when available.-69.87.194.251 22:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone insisted on changing the article back so that it repeats the Yahoo marketing lies, as truth. (Without bothering to discuss the matter here.) Nothing is unlimited. If you believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, just go store 1000GB on your Yahoo mail account -- and then come back and tell us all how easy it was!-69.87.204.46 12:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your personal views on whether or not email storage can be unlimited are irrelevant. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of facts, not opinion. Yahoo has stated that they will be offering unlimited storage, so that is what will be written. Yes it is clear they cannot supply unlimited storage as they only have so many servers but it must certainly be more than 2GB. Until the unlimited storage is available and someone is around to test the limits, speculation will not deliver a reliable Wikipedia article. --A Cornish Pasty 14:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You say "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of facts". Then you admit that the current unqualified statement in the article, "Starting in May, 2007, Yahoo! will start to give all users ... an unlimited amount of email storage" is not, and cannot be true. I hope that you also go to every other article and make sure that they report all absurd commercial claims by the subjects similarly without any qualifications. (The current article does not report the facts. It reports the marketing lies as though they were true.) There is nothing speculative about the fact that they will NOT be providing unlimited storage -- since it is impossible to do so. The only thing that would be speculative would be to try to guess what the actual limits will be.-69.87.200.81 22:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Again, completely irrelevant. The idea that storage can never be "unlimited" is your own personal opinion, and Wikipedia is not an outlet for your opinion. --A Cornish Pasty 17:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is insane! That they cannot offer unlimited storage is a fact, not a personal opinion! --89.242.72.253 21:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Guys, maybe you can read through this article: http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-6171111.html

So, I see that the Hive Mind is still sanctioning absurd marketing lies in the article claiming "unlimited storage"... It will be very amusing to watch how long this lasts! Still waiting for that first field report of success at storing 1000GB. Of course, that would be a LONG way from unlimited... Next we could try, say, 1,000,000GB... (I hope companies that want to sell Perpetual Motion also take advantage of this golden opportunity to use WP to back up their marketing departments. Live Forever? No-diet weight loss? Bring it all on!)-69.87.200.185 11:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unlimited does NOT mean "infinite". Unlimited simply means they will have enough for everyone's needs, so they will not have to limit what anyone uses. Of course there are actual limits, and if those limits are reached then they will have to reconsider their policy of unlimited e-mail. But as long as they can supply all accounts with enough space to store what their users want to store, they can call it unlimited. Given how fast they are expanding their servers, this is entirely possible. -(someone wrote sometime)

Nope. "Unlimited" means "no limits". It means, take as much as you want. Then take some more. And you can be sure, someone will want to take more than they will want to give... Here it is, almost the end of May, and I am very surprised not be have heard of this miracle coming to pass -- I hope it comes with an anti-gravity machine!-69.87.203.220 19:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you go to a buffet with unlimited servings, does that mean they have an unlimited supply of food? Or if you rent a car with unlimited mileage (i.e., no mileage surcharge) does that mean it will run indefinitely? Unlimited means they will not limit what anyone uses, which they won't.

Why does the article say that Yahoo! Mail has unlimited storage? I use Yahoo! Mail beta and I don't have unlimited storage yet. Also here is a website that you might want to add to the article. Unlimited Storage! --Chetblong 02:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the life of me, I can't remember where, but I know I read somewhere that Yahoo said they would provide unlimited storage, but anyone found to be using Yahoo Mail to store lots of files would have their accounts disabled/closed or their files deleted. Anyone else remember this? More importantly, anyone remember where? Lx45803 (talk) 18:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Their terms of use clearly state that abuse will not be tolerated. So of course, the yahoo counterpart of GmailFS will probably never exist. I think most of you are confusing "Unlimited" with "Infinite", which of course are 2 different things. I mean, using the restaurant analogy, you can pay the nominal fee and start loading a truck with food from the buffet, just because there are unlimited servings. Read Chetblong's link. --Baka toroi (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

comment for updating and NPOV check

Citing the latest edits of an anonymous user, I am certain that either the article is out of date or in need of NPOV check. As a non-BETA Plus user of Yahoo’s e-mail services, implementation of unlimited storage for e-mail is most likely not going to happen this month and so the article should mention this delay. Additionally, the claims in recent edits seem non-npov and even incorrect: recent edits declare that yahoo! e-mail offers the most in storage but links to other articles such as gmail and Windows live clearly contradict this article.--Kevin586 18:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did some rewording and updating on Mail Beta and added relevant sections. While at it, I forgot to uncheck the "minor correction" checkbox. As far as I know, the unlimited (meterless) storage has been deployed for quite some time now. -Mardus 08:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Limits

They WILL limit how much storage you can use. The main thing that has changed is that the limits are now hidden -- there is now no way to find out how much you will be allowed to use, before they toss you out on your ear -- just like Netflix and cable and every other marketing department that thinks it is good to pretend to sell a fantasy.

"What exactly does unlimited storage mean?
Unlimited storage gives normal email account users like yourself an opportunity to not have to worry about hitting a storage limit." [5]

Actually, what this does is exactly the opposite. Before, we knew how much was OK to use. Now we do not. -69.87.199.202 14:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even weirder than pretending we get unlimited storage, they seem to have taken away from us any way to check on the total amount of storage that we ARE currently using. So, none of us will know how much storage we are using -- and no one will actually know whether yahoo lets users store more or less email than other services! (If you know how to find out the total mail storage being used in a yahoo mail account, please tell the rest of us.)-69.87.200.181 20:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since Yahoo! Mail adopted "unlimited" storage, I've noticed my paid account gets suspended once a week on average, blocking any mail sent to the address. I suspect it occurs because I've surpassed some limit on message storage, but I have no way of knowing exactly when it will occur, thanks to the removal of the storage indicator. Having a limit on unlimited storage that customers don't know about is false advertising; the main article should mention this issue.

--69.150.163.1 18:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While all of your information may certainly be correct, we need reliable sources to also claim this so that your work is not considered original research. Thanks. —METS501 (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 16:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo Mail out of beta?

It might be original research but I think Yahoo! mail is out of beta now. --Kushalt 19:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See the yahoo mail blog entry Red 23:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Yahoo! Power User

Looks like a new feature; should it be mentioned on the wikipedia page? Check out the details on Power User Srcrowl 04:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unlimited lies

Verizon Busted For 'Unlimited' Marketing
Settles for a million dollars with NY Attorney General [6]

"For four years now, we've been discussing how Verizon Wireless's EV-DO broadband service was advertised as "unlimited," but featured an invisible download cap... Verizon would be more forthcoming about the limited nature of their unlimited service.

According to Cuomo's office, their probe revealed that Verizon Wireless terminated the accounts of over 13,000 consumers for "excessive" use between 2004 and 2007. Usage restrictions were not clearly posted, says Cuomo's office, and customers found their accounts terminated with little available recourse.

"When consumers are promised an ‘unlimited’ service, they do not expect the promise to be broken by hidden limitations," said Attorney General Andrew Cuomo. "Consumers must be treated fairly and honestly. Delivering a product is simply not enough – the promises must be delivered as well."

Unlimited is always a lie. -69.87.204.97 21:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In development?

The tag says it's in development, if it is, then how come I'm using it right now? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 22:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency

There's inconsistency between the hotmail and the yahoo mail articles. The Yahoo mail article states that "it is the most used e-mail provider on the Internet, serving over 260 million users." However, the hotmail article states "It has over 280 million users worldwide". How come 260 is more than 280? Yeah, I know. Different sources claiming different things. But such inconsistency can't be allowed.--Baka toroi (talk) 18:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No inconsistency I think. Hotmail claims more users, but Yahoo Mail is more used. i.e. traffic statistics and estimates show that Yahoo Mail gets more visits and activity, even if it may have less accounts. Hence the words "most used" rather than "biggest" in the article. --Golf fan (talk) 15:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Out of service?

Yahoo Mail, as well as the main homepage, aren't loading, while it seems thing like searches and such do. Is this a widespread thing right now?

No, they are working. iDosh! (talk) 15:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo's continuous policy changes; illegal?

On the Yahoo email sign-on screen, the following sentence is written: 'We have updated our privacy policy. Please click here to see the changes.' This statement has been there for a few months now. This was most likely intended for people to read after the initial Yahoo policy change, but now, with it left there, Yahoo can continue to make changes to their policy and people will be unaware of this. This is misleading. It would be better if they can add a date to this sentence to state when the last update to that policy was. At the moment, without a date, Yahoo has an easy way of continuously amending their policy without its members be any wiser of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elboertjie (talkcontribs) 09:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]