Talk:Romanian diaspora

Moldova/Moldovans issue reloaded

Since when are Romanians in Moldova Romanians in the diaspora? --Tēlex 17:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, I am tired of the one and the same user carrying the same disputable POV that "Moldovans and Romanians are one and the same" from one article, where it was rejected, into another one just to start it all over. In articles on top on my priority list, I rewrite that stuff. This one is not among them and I have no time to rewrite it. However, I note that the data is again presented contrary to the official national censuses where people without coersion let that be known that they consider themselves Moldovans rather than Romanians. I am tagging the article.

Another erroneous statement the article makes is that it even calls Moldovans and Romanians of Moldova and Bukovina by the word "diaspora". Those people are the native population of those areas and calling them "diaspora" is plain wrong. Please rewrite the article. Until then, article tagged. --Irpen 04:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Until 1991 the Republic of Moldova was one of the 15 republics of the

USSR. Besides the Russian, official on all USSR, each republic had its own official national language. 67% was the proportion of Moldavians in the entire population of the republic (official soviet census). Soviets decided: the language of Moldavians is the Moldavian. They also decided: Moldavian language is an oriental modern Latin language close to the Romanian but different.The conclusion is simple: Moldavian is not Romanian, then Moldavians are not Romanians. Considering Moldova a territory between Romania and the Soviet Union, also considering Moldova as an economically non viable independent country (which was true after the independence of 1991) the only question is: unite Moldova with USSR (changed today into Ukraine and Russia) or unite Moldova with Romania? Since Romanians are not inhabiting Moldova, and Russians plus Ukrainians are about 25%, then Moldova should join Russia, or Ukraine , or be divided between these two countries. The second opinion: Moldavians are those Romanians living at the N-E of the capital city (of Romania) Bucharest (2.6 million inhabitants for the city) at a distance of 150 to 600 km. Statistics of Bucharest show that: 30% of the inhabitants are 90-100% Moldavians, and 50% of Bucharest population is between 10% to 100% Moldavian. That happens because: the population of the 40 largest cities of Romania grew 10 times between 1900 and 1990 years. In the neighbouring Hungary this process happened between 1800-1900 years (According to Encyclopedia Britannica ). So most of Romanian urban population comes from rural areas where the birth rate is much higher than in urban areas, and especially from regions like Moldova (with a birth rate 3-4 times bigger than the national average). Moldova is the only European country with a Russian military base. Around the base the Dnistrian Republic (unrecognized) has been created The only language that can be used there is the Russian, although Russians (colonized in the area) are only 19% of the Dnistrian population. The only enemies Russian soldier fights against on Dniester river are Latin alphabet Romanian books. The "great" difference between Romanian and Moldovian was the POLITICAL will of the Soviet Union, that took the literary Romanian, written with Latin alphabet and translated it into Cyrillic alphabet. Fact: the major difference between Croatian and Serbian languages is the Latin alphabet used by the first, and the Cyrillic used by the second. Consequence: several thousand deaths in civil war. ~~--Sorinutsu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.239.161.172 (talk) 14:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

CIS

In this context, does it include Moldova and Ukraine? If not, we should make that clear. Biruitorul 08:41, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Late reply (I know), but the Commonwealth of Independent States may have upwards to 3 million Romanians according to some ethnographic authorities. Most of them live in European Russia, but widely scattered across Siberia and are usually of Moldavian origin of the Republic of Moldovia and western parts of Ukraine. The historical boundaries of Romanians (aka Vlachs) extended northward to present-day southern Poland (Galicia) with the Carpatho-Romanians of Slovakia and Belarus, and the estimated 50,000 Romanians reportedly living in western Turkey whom settled there during the Ottoman Empire era (late 18th to early 20th centuries) when parts of the Romanian homeland was under the Turks (i.e. the Megleno-Romanians in Macedonia, parts of Bulgaria and Serbia; and Thrace, Greece).

The Romanian diaspora forgot to mention some Romanians migrated to the Russo-Chinese (or Sino-Russian) border (the Amur River valley) in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. Some Romanian villages can be found in Manchuria on the Chinese side of the Amur, although I expect a very small number of Romanians in the present-day. They fled to China to escape communist oppression until the country was first occupied by Japan as the Manchukuo prefecture in 1931-45 and finally the Communists took over mainland China in 1945-49. Romanian immigration to Japan has slightly increased since 1980 to either obtain much-needed work or for political asylum, but a relatively small community of Romanians are found there. + 71.102.53.48 (talk) 17:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)