Talk:Textile

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A textile is any kind of woven cloth, or a cloth made of fibres that have been bonded into a fabric without weaving. eg. felt. ???

I will update this somewhat. Some of the types of cloth are not necessary. An entry for geotextiles would be useful.

Jackiespeel 18:21, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Textile is also a kind of ReStructured_Text http://textism.com/tools/textile/

Textile, cloth and fabric

I was trying to understand the difference between cloth and textile. Just by looking at the Webster's definition, it seems that cloth is more inclusive and includes all woven and non-woven fabric, while textile is only woven fabric. If I am wrong about this, and there is no distiction between cloth and fabric, then they should be combined into to one article. ike9898 02:18, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and while we're at it, how does fabric fit into the sceme? ike9898 02:23, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

Good point. Fabric disambiguates to cloth which treats the two as the same. I don't think they are the same: I consider cloth to be a subset of both fabric (which might also include leather or PVC) and of textile (which might be stretched so far as to cover net). Noisy | Talk 11:33, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

Listiness

I think that this article could be improved by making it less "listy". The last 2/3 of the article is mostly lists. Let's make this into a real article.....ike9898 18:28, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Possible merge

Currently there is an article named Textile manufacturing terminology which probably should have a list of different terms and their meanings. The article currently located there has good information, but is not the list that such a title suggests. Much of that info could probably be moved here, and a list of terms created at that page. If we don't move that article here, it should probably get renamed, but I can't think of something appropriate. Loggie July 1, 2005 17:33 (UTC)

I moved the old Textile manufacturing terminology to Textile manufacturing, but I still think some of that information might be useful here, if someone else would take a look. Loggie July 3, 2005 18:22 (UTC)

I think that some text on textile manufacturing does belong in this article, but the reason that I created the Textile manufacturing terminology article in the first place was because I thought it would eventually get very large and overwhelm the original Textile article. Given the state of the current article, that seems very likely.

As with all my projects, I started with something else (Industrial Revolution, in this case) and drifted onto something completely different. When I'm back on my home computer at the weekend, I'll try and refocus on this area. Noisy | Talk 18:29, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Organic textiles.

I'm new to this so appologies for doubles etc. And also for probably being in the wrong section.

That being said in ROMP Ltd I hold licence X0001 from the Soil Association in the UK for the production of Organic Leather and we are about to crack denim/cotton as well.

I would like to propose a definition of Organic Textiles for discussion and final submission to Ifoam.

An Organic textile is one where the husbandry of the Soil at Planting or Birth is Certified organic to the same Organic standard of the eventual product. All processes in the farming section are to that same standard with full separation until the raw material is presented to the Textile production stages. The raw material is then treated in a manufacturing system that is also Organically certified to the same standard and separate in all aspects until the textile is complete. This includes all physical and all chemical stages especially dye-ing. And finally an organic textile should contain an element in the final price which rewards the original producer fairly so that the Organic movement as a whole and the organic farmer specifially is rewarded directly for their status

To product a finished organic article from that textile to the original organic standard requires a certified factory and designer brand, and retailer.

At the moment 99% of the Organic Textile that I see gives up after raw material and introduces non-organic materials during the dye phase. They also promote cheap labour which appears to be counter productive to the imperative and pressing need to change. Hence we see Organic Cotton T shirts sold as such but printed and dyed with increased levels of Chromium based dyes and manufactured in the same factories and at the same appalling labour rates as is the norm today.

Of couse I am totally biased hence the need to open up the debate but would be very interested in logical and well thoughtout positions on where we are in the cycle and what is trully in the best interests of the planet.

Greg The Romp Project