User talk:Only/Archive 11

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Grey Griffins: Lets get it to B

I dont know if you've ever read a book in the series but I REALLY REALLY want to get the Grey Griffins article to FA. But we have to take one step at atime. Do you have the time to help me raise the article to B grade?User:Kingrock 03:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

no. Metros (talk) 03:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks anyway.User:Kingrock 04:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Even though you dont have time to help me I need a admins point of view, is the article NPOV, that it contains reliable refrences, focuses on the topicUser:Kingrock 14:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

the AN/I thing on your talk page comments

Kudos to you. There was nothing wrong with your statement, and I both see where you were going with it and agree with it too. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 06:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Unprotect article

I would like to request that the Sri Lankan civil war article be unprotected. The edit war between me and Watchdogb has been partialy resolved, we have decided to continue our edits of Wikipedia through discussion and to not start a brawl. Thank you. Top Gun

ER

Please check out my editors review, thanks!User:Kingrock 03:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Enforcer removed

Per an e-mail request to unblock-en-l, the wikibreak enforcer has been removed. Happy editing, GDonato (talk) 20:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!  :) Metros (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Welcome Back

I hope your exams went well. I'd like to say that quite a bit happened to me. I have created a DYK, baseball uniform, and I have 2 other DYK's. Comments?--User:RyRy5 20:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

You need to stop going around saying that you've had "2 other DYK's". Simply listing an article for DYK isn't really close to being on the level of actually writing it. You've had 1 DYK, and you nominated two other articles; there's a big difference. You also really, really need to stop asking people to look at your contributions, give their opinion on how you're doing, and go to your review. If people want to do it, they'll do it. You don't need to beg everyone to do that. You also don't need to tell every single person about your DYK's and your edit count. To quote the slogan: "Just do it." Let your actions speak for themselves and the commentary will arise out of that. Metros (talk) 20:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay. So if others feel like doing something, they'll do it if they want to. I says something like that in WP:CANVASSING somewhere. -- User:RyRy5 20:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Metros, just wanted to welcome you back, how were the exams? King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 21:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Vampire Warrior

Hi. That unblock request is a bit strange; I think as the blocking admin you are most qualified to evaluate it. Best, Sandstein (talk) 23:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

If that one remains blocked, Vampire Warrior II (talk · contribs) should probably be blocked as well for block evasion. On the other hand, apart from generating needless drama (and no useful edits that I can see) there's not much to block this kid for. Sandstein (talk) 23:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I've blocked the alternate account and tagged it as a sock. I, personally, think the block should not be lifted, but, then again, I'd probably be a little biased to ask because I was the subject of this beauty. Metros (talk) 00:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, yes, after seeing this I do concur that he probably should stay blocked. Sandstein (talk) 07:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Reply

The user blanked the page. It was vandalism. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ Review) 02:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, no. The IP took out the significant unnecessary, unsourced text tacked onto the end of the article. Metros (talk) 02:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Grey Griffins (book series)

Hey Metros i have nominated the page for GA. I have put the article under PR but I want more feedback but the article may be ready anyway. So can you review the page dude? King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 02:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

no, sorry. Metros (talk) 02:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. Happy editing! King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 02:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Email

Sending... « Milk's Favorite Cookie ^{( talk / contribs)} 02:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Sent. « Milk's Favorite Cookie ^{( talk / contribs)} 02:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Received and replied. Metros (talk) 02:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

As with me. « Milk's Favorite Cookie ^{( talk / contribs)} 22:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Block Request

I have a request that 72.66.94.86 should be blocked. He has already been given a final warning and then continued to vandalize pages. King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 01:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Oops

In both cases, it appears I mistook good-faith edits for vandalism. My apologies. --Sharkface^T/_C 03:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

While I respect your decision to remove my rollback rights, I ask that you do a more thorough review of my rollback usage. For example, there are several other prominent (and, if I may be so candid, more disastrous) examples of when I accidentally used rollback to undo good-faith edits that were not vandalism. For examples, see here and here. While these egregious errors are obviously apparent, I ask that you consider them in light over 2000 other times I used rollback successfully to combat vandalism. And while my mistakes will still stand as ugly blemishes on my vandal-fighting record, (and if I may be so audacious) I question as to whether I should lose the rollback tool for less than ten instances out of 2000 edits? For mistakes that occur less than 0.5% of the time? I humbly ask you to weigh my mistakes against my achievements and reconsider your decision. --Sharkface^T/_C 03:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Rollback is a one and done thing. If you misuse it, it gets taken away. You misused it at least twice in the last two hours. Metros (talk) 03:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

In that case, my vandal fighting for the time being will not involve the use of rollback. --Sharkface^T/_C 03:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Here are 4 other rollbacks of concern in your last 50 overall edits. That was a legit edition of a character/actor. It's questionable about whether this would qualify as a significant event or not, but that's for discussion, ot rollbacks. This appears to be unnecessary trivia. According to this, it actually looks like there is a album that you took out here. Metros (talk) 04:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I will fully admit to being in fault for at least three of those edits (much to my consternation, I assure you). The Superbad edit especially reflects poorly upon me, as a quick check over at IMDB could have confirmed the existence of that character. Regarding y use of rollback for the anniversary of the Columbine massacre, I felt that, as there are currently no major plans in place for the 10th Anniversary of the event, the anniversary wasn't particularly notable. As such, I went ahead and removed the addition. While anniversaries can and do appear in pages regarding years, usually they are accompanied by some sort of explanation as to why that date is significant. For example, the February 2009 planned celebration for the 200th anniversary of Darwin Day includes a bit about how the National History Museum in London will commemorate the event. Not to downplay the scope and significance of the Columbine tragedy, but unless there will be the opening of a significant monument on the 10th anniversary, I'm not sure why it's on that list. And while I understand that rollback is to be used for primarily vandalism, I felt that the anniversary blurb was nonproductive enough to merit the use rollback, in accordance with WP:ROLLBACK. Again, apologies for the mistakes. --Sharkface^T/_C 04:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

American idol

I am requesting that American Idol be semi-protected if you look in the history section you will understand my request. King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 02:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:

Because I just assumed it was a newsletter for all of wikipedia. S. T. H. 00:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Why did you pick out RyRy5? And I don't need a reason. S. T. H. 00:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Because he joined it just before you. And no, you don't need a reason, but to add "I have no idea what this is" when joining a list is really, really pointless. Metros (talk) 00:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Check your email

You have mail. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 19:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio of San Jacinto College

It seems the article's history section is a copyvio of the home website. I will provide more evidence shortly.--RyRy5 (talk) 04:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It should be somewhere around this website. I can't search thouroughy at this moment. You should probably check Google also. Like I said, I can't do it myself at this moment.--RyRy5 (talk) 04:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the reversion of vandalism on my userpage. Much appreciated ——Ryan | t • c 16:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't think you were a "fart"... Metros (talk) 16:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought BoL and I were topic banned...?

Help me figure this out. How can I go and edit my userspace, and then BoL edits ACC without getting blocked? I'm confused. And I don't mean to rat on BoL, but still...--Gp75motorsports ^{REV LIMITER} 18:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I swear Metros, like moths to the candle, you are just a magnet for this sort of thing. How do you manage it? ➪HiDrNick! 18:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You're right, I apologize. It's not fair that you edited user spaces and Wikipedia spaces without getting blocked. Because of that, I have blocked you for one month. As for BoL, see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive133#Removing_topic_ban_on_Blow_of_Light. Metros (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Bomb threat at Wayne Valley

Here's the proof of the more recent bomb threat http://www.northjersey.com/news/19127789.html

Well cite the source in the article, don't just add the statement to the article without a source backing it up. Metros (talk) 00:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

I understand your concerns. Is there any way I can persuade you otherwise?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely not. Metros (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Very well. Nothing personal.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Stop contacting every single person who opposes your RFA trying to change their minds. This is not appropriate. Metros (talk) 01:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

As for the answer to your question the editors didn't provide edit summaries. I was unsure but rolled back as no harm would come the article in its previous form.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

That is possibly the worst answer I've ever seen. Given my previous warning to you for this I'm removing you from rollback; if I see any further abuse of AWB I'm also removing that (I haven't yet checked). — iridescent 01:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I already took it away. And I agree with your assessment of the explanation. Metros (talk) 01:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Not my ip. My mistake.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Begging to run checkuser. Please. No I'm not crazy. Not puppets and if so. Block me indefinitely. This is a total insult.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Also know one alternate account. User:Mr.Xp Public login account. Never used.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I just love the way I'm the one who gets blamed for this... — iridescent 02:50, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

I find it a little hypocritical of you to go round removing people's rollback right when you frequently misuse it. Please reconsider your use of it, as it cannot be taken away from you like it can for non-admins. Al Tally ^talk 02:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

none of those are misuses as far as I can see. I reverted a sockpuppet avoiding a block in the first two. The third is also a sockpuppet of a recurring vandal. The forth is a user adding block templates without the ability to actually block which is an inappropriate action, so I rolled it back (and then explained why on the user's talk page). Metros (talk) 02:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

None of them are vandalism though, which is what rollback is for. Al Tally ^talk 02:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

A sockpuppet avoiding a block is certainly a reasonable use of rollback. If you read WP:ROLLBACK, you'll see that it states it's for edits that are blatantly unproductive. Edits of banned users avoiding blocks are blatantly unproductive in our policies. Also, it's a good idea to consider the "when not to use" rollback definition which says don't use it if there's a question about whether the edit should or should not be undone. Is there any doubt that those four edits needed to be undone? There is no doubt. Metros (talk) 02:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

By my explanation I did not mean lack of an edit summary made me roll back. I meant it confused me and made me unsure see rest of explanation.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Well that's even worse. If you look at an edit and can't tell if it's inappropriate or not, you do not rollback. You only do so when you know it's inappropriate. Metros (talk) 22:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Also please define future:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

In a long while (I'd say at least 3-4 weeks) when you demonstrate the understanding of the appropriateness of reverts but clearly you don't see that right now. Metros (talk) 22:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

ok?

It's ok with me that you did nothing about that Modocc person. But are you saying if I ever see something that I disagree with in a talk page or article, that I can just delete it. For example, I don't agree with someone's suggestion so I just delete it instead of discussion? Sceapo (talk) 16:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The discussion he took away has absolutely nothing to do with improving the article. Talk pages are for discussing how to fix parts of the article, not to attack or speculate about things the subject of the article does. Additionally, he was not blocked because he was never warned for any inappropriate behavior or had any other behavior that looked inappropriate. Metros (talk) 17:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The discussion (see second half) did have article improvement suggestions including getting references for the statement. It all seems very subjective in Wikipedia that some are called vandals and are punished and others can delete stuff and have an excuse. Odd to me. I am not pro or anti that statement that was removed but it's bothering to see deletion like this. Sceapo (talk) 17:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Warning is the key. Please warn him. Thanks. Sceapo (talk) 17:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

For what? There is no vandalism here to warn about. Metros (talk) 17:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Fortune Global 500 edit war

Hi Metros, I just wanted to suggest a talking with User:Signsolid about this and this (if that's him). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why someone has wrote I have other accounts. If I did have sock accounts I wouldn't be advertising they were mine like they have. Seems like an editor who I must have upset sometime. Signsolid (talk) 22:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Huggle and rollback

Is there any chance that the edit summary can be changed? The "reverted edits by...to last version by..." format currently used is same that is used for rollback edits. This means it is impossible to distinguish between a Huggle revert and a rollback revert (which can be an important distinction in investigating roll back abuse). Thanks, Metros (talk) 00:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Huggle uses rollback where possible; abuse of rollback through Huggle is still abuse of rollback. The non-rollback reverting message doesn't have a "talk" link after the user's name. The problem with changing the summary used for rollback is that you lose information. The rollback summary gives the name of the user being reverted to, which isn't always available to Huggle when reverting; retrieving it would mean an extra page history request which would slow things down – Gurchzilla (talk) 10:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, but if I see inappropriate reverts out of a user using Huggle that doesn't have rollback, I have to go double check if the person has rollback. Or leave a message on their user talk to say "I've noticed you're using rollback inappropriately" only to find out they're not. So, either way, it's creating extra steps for administrators in investigating abuse of rollback. If I knew right away it was Huggle abuse and not rollback abuse, I could approach it differently. Metros (talk) 14:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

There seems to be consensus to limit Huggle to users with rollback, which will be implemented in the next version. So this should become a non-issue -- Gurchzilla (talk) 21:59, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Well that'll be good (as you can see through these issues I've had today with a user who just lost rollback who's been using Huggle inappropriately). Metros (talk) 22:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Accident.i'll go strike out the warnings now.User:Xp54321 15:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!I'll explain to the user now and apologize.User:Xp54321 15:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I watch American Idol (season 7), a page I edit, and saw Xp's huggle/rollback (cant distinguish), twice he reverted absolutely non-vandal edits, actually reverting to an incorrect version of the page. I've warned over on his talk, but I noticed he just recently had his rollback removed. Can an editor than immediately just go sign up for huggle to circumvent this? Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 16:16, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Really, just because you don't have rollback anymore soesn't mean you can still make many mistakes with other reevrting tools. If you keep misusing other tools, why would anyone give you rollback again if others know that you would misuse it due to your misuse in other tools repeatedly. You should try learning more about vandalism through your adoption like I am currently. --User:RyRy5 16:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Understood.Am I still allowed to make legit reverts?User:Xp54321 16:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, so I suggest you double check your reverts before you save the page. Metros (talk) 16:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay.User:Xp54321 16:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you specify the mistakes?User:Xp54321 20:22, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Or more accurately.What mistakes?(Gordon Greer not mistake,was removing content,at least one other user also rved it)Xp54321 (User talk:Xp5432120:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Gordon Banks is the biggest mistake I've noticed. There were also several others like Battle of Jutland and Sweet About Me where you reverted inappropriately (though you went back to correct yourself). At Weezer you undid vandalism, then, for I don't know what reason, decided to put the vandalism back in. Metros (talk) 20:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Exactly! I undid myself a few times when I was unsure figuring better safe than sorry. How was gordon banks a mistake. Please check! Battle of jutland? Sweet about me? Specify.I have a right to explain my actions!User:Xp54321 20:33, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

If you wanted to be "better safe than sorry" you should have never done the revert in the first place. Gordon Banks is clearly a bad revert. The user condensed the dozens of lines of the squad list into one template; how is that vandalism? Metros (talk) 20:35, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Two other editors also reverted on that gordon greer page.User:Xp54321 20:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Only one warned about huggle and not about this!STOP picking on me!!!User:Xp54321 20:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

And does this explain why you reverted? Metros (talk) 20:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes.When unsure I look for bot or other editors' reverts.User:Xp54321 20:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

You were the first person to revert there; you weren't just following others. Metros (talk) 20:44, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh forget this.There's no persuading you.User:Xp54321 20:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Why are you removing the rest of my signature?User:Xp54321 20:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

"no persuading you". Did you have those mistakes? Yes. Were you warned that you would have it taken away for further mistakes? Yes. Therefore, it's taken away. It's that simple. As for your signature...I don't like excessive crap on this page such as several lines of signatures. Metros (talk) 20:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Tyw7

I sometimes edit without logging in. My non logged in user name is 81.86.68.253. Tyw7, formerly Troop350 (talk) 11:04, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk Page Message

Hi; please read WP:DRC, and note that I have no interest in discussing anything with you at my talkpage. 81.86.68.253 (talk) 11:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC) Registered as User Tyw7 Tyw's Talk

And why not? Do you actually believe that you have a right to create pages in other users' subpages? Metros (talk) 12:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

No I don't. I just wanted to help them make a user box other users has been badgering them to make. The user box is a barnstar for finding the hidden page. 81.86.68.253 (talk) 17:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

If they want the barnstar, they'll create it. There is no need to create one for those users unless they ask you for help to create it. Metros (talk) 17:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Check the number of edits I did as Troop350. 81.86.68.253 (talk) 17:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

And since then? 186 edits, 3 to articles. Metros (talk) 17:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

And as anonymous user. User 81.86.68.253-- 81.86.68.253 (talk) 18:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

That brings you up to 8 article edits since the 8th over a total of about 320 edits overall. Metros (talk) 18:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

No User

You put on WP:CHU, that there is no user by the name of Connor Turnbull. THAT'S IS WHY I WAS ASKING FOR MY DOOPLEGANER ACCOUNT TO BE CALLED CONNOR TURNBULL. SimpsonsFan08 ^{talk Sign Here Please and get Award} 12:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay...there is absolutely no need to yell. That was just a note there pointing that out. If you want it to be there and there is no such user, why don't you just register as that? Why'd you pick the other account and ask it to be shifted to the Connor Turnbull one? You could have just registered Connor Turnbull and be done with it. Metros (talk) 13:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

My Talk Page

As per your edits on my Talk Page -- that is my Talk Page, thank you. The message in question was a perceived insult and I removed it because I don't wish to be insulted on my Talk Page. Thank you. Ecoleetage (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

That is no where close to being an insult or personal attack. If you believe it is, discuss it with the user and ask that user if they could explain the intent of the line and if they are okay with you editing what they left you. Otherwise, it is just plain rude to do that. Metros (talk) 16:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Rudeness is subjective, and you don't know anything about what transpired regarding the history of that line. If I am not violating specific WP policy, please stay off my talk page and leave me alone! Ecoleetage (talk) 16:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

• P.S. I should add that I genuinely understand where you are coming from. I am impressed with your efforts to maintain order here. So...

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your dedicated efforts in bringing order and civility to Wikipedia. Ecoleetage (talk) 21:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Suddenly

Only add audio samples (User:Deinaked) 15:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

What? Metros (talk) 20:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I thinj s/he means this? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 20:04, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Which is weird because that wasn't just adding an audio sample. Additionally, why do we even need an audio sample, let alone two audio samples in that article? Metros (talk) 20:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Deinaked is currently trying an edit war and submitting false references and deleting text on wikipedia. Fourth vandellism action today. I have given some warnings to this user but he/she still re do's my work and ignore my warnings. Deinaked also reverted my work on the Headstrong album page where i found over 5 kilobytes of false references and text. And then in Brenda Song's I'm Not That Girl article dienaked reverted the chart positions which where referenced and when i remove chart positions by dienaked that are not referenced she/he reverts my edits.IntoCreativeJan) 20:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Your comments

I am in receipt of your comments. While I am sure that your intentions were well-intended, your choice of words can be perceived as something less than helpful. I appreciate your efforts to be helpful, but I must ask (again) to please stay off my Talk Page. Thank you. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

You really, really need to grow thicker skin if you perceive anything that I said there as anything less than helpful. You really need to stop being so confrontational with other users. Everything people say you take as an insult, an attack, or otherwise degrading to you. Metros (talk) 02:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Look, I said that I appreciate your efforts to help me. Unfortunately, I disagree with your diagnosis and your choice of words.

If you read what I had posted elsewhere, you would've seen that I've been confronted out of the blue in the past few weeks by people who have been rude and patronizing. I am not making this stuff up. I don't go barging into people's Talk Pages insulting their research skills (that's happened to me), I don't call people names in article discussions (that's happened to me), I don't openly insult people's choices for AfD nominations (that's happened to me) and I don't start conversations about other people when they are not present to defend themselves (that also happened to me). When I have been rude (which I admit has happened on occasion), I've apologized and tried to make amends. I did that today with you (see above), though it seems my gesture here may have been taken the wrong way.

As for "begging" for an award -- I am sorry, but I believe you completely misread what I wrote. This was part of an overall statement that I feel that my contributions to WP are not appreciated. I see no reason to go into details here on this matter, for reasons that I hope are obvious, and I was simply venting frustration that I feel no one cares about what I am doing here.

I am genuinely sorry that my commentary angered or irritated you. I have no wish to have a fight with you, nor with any person on this site. The sum of what I was after is very simple: I just wish people would show more respect to me. Thank you for listening, and be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: little help...

I do agree that it seems like begging, which I don't think he should be doing because he's a pretty good editor (and sorry, Eco, for "talking behind your back" - I know you're going to read this, but we're just discussing the situation). I'll leave him a note about civility; sorry he responded that way, though I think he didn't mean it harshly though it does come across that way.

Anyway, sorry for letting this situation leak out of my talk page; I didn't intend for it to become anything big. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 03:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

For Metros and MoP, I am genuinely sorry that I gave this impression. This is clearly not what I hoped to achieve in speaking aloud about how I felt about my WP time. I was strictly stating my frustration over a perceived lack of respect, and it appears that my rambling went off in directions that resulted in impressions that I never intended. I genuinely hope that you can take my apology to heart and consider the matter closed. Thank you, both. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:43, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

And also, for Metros, I am deeply sorry for creating offense by labeling your message as "nonsense" when I deleted it. That was uncalled for -- you obviously had my best intentions in mind and it was puerile for me to act that way. This will not happen again, trust me. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Greetings

Hello Metros, you may not know me, but I was someone who you dealt with in the past. I admit I have been confrontational and rude, to you, to Scientizzle, to Mr. Wales and those not named herein. I have been in reflection since my last time when we fought. After my last church service where I received the sacrament of Holy Communion (I'm Congregationalist Christian) I realized, that not only have I wronged you, but I violated the word of my God, in the way I threatened legal judgment against this project. I don't expect I will be forgiven by you and the others, but I seek it as I sought forgiveness of Christ when I received Communion. I withdraw all legal challenges and threats of legal action against Mr. Wales, you and Wikipedia. I know I likely will not be unblocked, and won't be likely believed. But I am sorry to you all, and I will resign from Wikipedia. I love you all as my brothers and sisters in Christ's kingdom. Let Him decide between us. God Bless you, Metros. I wish you long life and good health. ForeverSearching (talk) 17:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

And who are you? Metros (talk) 17:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

It's ESCStudent774441 (talk · contribs)... — Scientizzle 18:28, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I just noticed it after the post to Bolvb's page. Any thoughts? Metros (talk) 18:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

See my response. I've no compulsion to block now, considering the withdrawl of the legal threats, but I won't be particularly patient without a good signal-to-noise ratio. Considering this is, like, the fifteenth "retirement" from this user's accounts & IPs, we'll see if it sticks. — Scientizzle 18:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Just so you're aware, check out User_talk:Scientizzle#Greeting. — Scientizzle 21:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Gee, it makes my apology look anemic in comparison. Can I do a rewrite? LOL Ecoleetage (talk) 18:20, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism only account?

Sorry, barkign up the wrong tree here :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FelisLeo (talk • contribs)

Okay? Metros (talk) 20:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah sorry I already asked the question to Less heard van U. I did a good job misreading the AIV history. FelisLeo^Talk! 20:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Admin

I have already asked my mentor for advice on what I should get involved with, and he gave me great advice, but now I want even better advice especially since your and admin. My question is to become and admin in the future what should I get started and involved with right here and now.User:Gears of War 21:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't give advice on how to become an administrator, sorry. Metros (talk) 22:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay?User:Gears of War 22:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Metros (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Xp54321

You'd better have a look at this and this. I'm inclined to let him carry on editing - I don't think he can be blamed if there's a bug in the software - as long as there's the proviso that one error and he's blocked. I imagine the events of the past week have at least driven home how important it is to be careful; blocking him seems a bit harsh. — iridescent 00:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I already gave a short block (15 minutes) so we can sort this out. I've posted at Gurch's page. Metros (talk) 00:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

You might also want to offer words of advice to Realist2, who seems to be giving him (and others) impressive amounts of very bad advice ("the Barnstar of Editcounting"?); I'm not inclined to get involved with him since my sole interaction with him to date has been him issuing a ridiculous borderline-threat to me regarding my "hassling" Xp.

Yeah, I saw the total WP:DICK behavior of Realist2 with the barnstar. That's in response to this edit count discussion at Xp54321's talk page. What do you think should be done? It is just being a dick and nothing else obviously, Metros (talk) 01:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I dont consider it DICK, more POINT. --Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 01:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

(ec) As you've probably seen, I've warned him both on Xp's talk page and mine; his latest gem is "get your block log wiped". Although Xp might not believe me, I do think he's a genuinely good faith editor - but Realist's encouraging him to treat Wikipedia as a MMORPG is doing him no favors at all. — iridescent 01:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

It's both. I request that you "take it back" with the barnstar because it's extremely uncalled for, it's disruptive, and it brings the wrong example to Xp54321. Metros (talk) 01:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Im not taking the barnstar back, its cruel but i will encourage him to avoid editing counting. Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 01:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)