User talk:CT Cooper

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Solar energy protection

You mind having a chat with User:Anthony Appleyard about the inappropriateness of protecting Solar energy just so that an SPA can edit it the way they like and ignore the wishes of the community? 199.125.109.31 (talk) 14:38, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about my lack of response, I had exams so I decided to wait until after they were over before dealing with this. I will review the situation and leave a message with Anthony Appleyard as soon as I get round to it now. Camaron2 | Chris (talk) 15:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I have left a message with Anthony Appleyard. I have to conclude that I think the article should be unprotected. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Camaron... Please have a look at this: Rfc Pictures. That was 2 months of time and effort that led to a disregarded consensus. This Anon makes a big stink about editing the page but hasn't added more than a few sentences and the lead picture. You seem to think this is a content issue but I beg to differ. Frequent incivility and disruption should be recognized and dealt with. I think the general level of vandalism (which you've seen) on the page justifies protection alone. Regardless of protection this Anon seems to have some sockpuppets running around so the protection of the page is relatively moot. But the thing is... You've limited two page protections now. If this situation happens to come up again I'd ask that you checked out the talk archives before acting to limit protection. Cheers Mrshaba (talk) 22:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Frequent incivility and disruption should be dealt with, some inadvisable behaviour, but I cannot see any of that to a significant extent there or elsewhere. Vandalism occurs on that page but not currently at a level which justifies protection. I will do my research, as I did before, if this comes up again but I will act to limit protection within the protection policy as necessary. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey!

Do you happen to be online at the moment? Dusti^{complain/compliment} 16:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Dusti, I am for the moment. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, what I was going to ask you has changed....see here and here. You'll get the drift. Nevermind now though lol :D. Dusti^{complain/compliment} 22:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I think you will do well with Keeper. If you need any additional help, I am still available Camaron | Chris (talk) 10:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 22:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I think I will just wait for the patch for now. Camaron | Chris (talk) 10:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Scotland in the Eurovision Song Contest

Thanks for transferring the rest of that article's history. There's just one minor quibble though, as the AfD closure also dictated deletion (rather than redirection) of the Scotland article. While redirects are cheap, "Scotland in the Eurovision Song Contest" is a very unlikely search term and no other article links to it. When and if Scotland does enter the competition, the article could be spun off again. I hope you don't mind but I'm going to go ahead and delete the redirect and its talk page. Cheers, ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 21:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I to be honest disagree, the article was there for a while and I can see many people, such as myself, using it as a search term given other articles use the same naming conventions. If the AFD dictated deletion, which is arguable as redirects fall outside the scope of AfD, then I have no choice but to dispute the AFD result. Redirects are cheap, so maybe the question that should be asked is why is a redirect so inappropriate? Significant later AFD comments supported redirection, no reason has been given on why the suggestion to redirect was dismissed. I also dispute the redirect deletion under WP:CSD#R3 as it is not an implausible typo, and after checking the dictionary definition, nor a misonemer. Camaron | Chris (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I also have to ask what was wrong with the simpler and more common method, as far as I can see, way of merging articles which is to simply redirect the page, move the content into the article been merged into, and add {{r from merge}} to the redirect. It is easier to find the page history when it is not all combined in one article. In addition, if the article is recreated it is easier to have all the versions ever created for that article in one place. For this reason I also support reversing the history merger, which can be done. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Very well, I've undeleted the redirect. As you've said, redirects are cheap and there's no reason to quibble over such a minor concern. Cheers, ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 08:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Anetode. Camaron | Chris (talk) 08:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Why

Why Did you block me? I have some questions about the "Attention" (where you contact my server thing) thing you gave me. What does it do ? please contact me via my user talk/on here (both would be prefferable) thanks. Also what is going to happen? I am sorry if i vandalized. I just asked what i did worng so that i wouldnt do it a gain the next day BAM that shows up! plz help!

I'm sorry if it wasn't you . It just looked like it from the page history :P. Thanks:)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.34.90.227 (talk) 01:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

You weren't blocked. The template I added is just to let administrators know who the IP address belongs to so in the event of abuse they can be contacted. Don't worry - this is added to a lot of talk pages and doesn't necessarily mean that someone is actually right now using the IP address for abuse. In this case, as far as I can see this IP address is not been used for abuse. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh thank heavens...I thought something bad was going to happen. Thank you so much. I had no idea. I know someone accused me of vandalizing but I admit I may have, but I asked how I did so that I wouldn't do it again:). Also, the "vandalizing " was fixed. So no worries:)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.34.90.227 (talk) 23:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:WPSCH/A

Thanks, will do. I have been adding infoboxes to school articles and assessing as I go along. If that's not okay, I can make notations as well on the project page as well. — Calebrw (talk) 19:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

In the past the project has proffered that new assessors list all their assessments on the project page, though I personally don't mind if you don't unless you are in doubt on a rating. However everybody should generally list assessments if it involves giving an article rating higher than Start, or/and importance higher than Mid. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I have listed all my assessments since today. If you would like to review them, you may, just to see that I know what I'm doing. I tried to clear as much of the assessment request backlog as I could. (Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Assessment#Assessment_requests) I got up to mid-April and will hopefully complete the rest of it tomorrow. — Calebrw (talk) 01:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

PS: Please respond on my Talk page, so I get the notification. ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calebrw (talk • contribs) 01:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page as requested. Camaron | Chris (talk) 17:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I will do this in the future. Sorry for any inconvenience. — Calebrw (talk) 20:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Plagarism removed from Shawnigan Lake School article.

Please see talk page of Shawnigan Lake School. I discovered that the History section was a near word-for-word plagiarism of http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/text2html/finding/government/.ms_finding//MS-1485.txt and this needs to cited correctly. It is cited in-text once, but that is it.

I discovered this during a requested assessment of this article. The rest looks good. — Calebrw (talk) 21:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

EUROVISION

Why withdraw the part of spokepersons and commentators on the page of the Eurovision Song Contest 2008, as if in the pages of the editions of the other years because there would be in this be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.84.129.149 (talk) 21:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

See my comments on the ESC 2008 talk page. Camaron | Chris (talk) 15:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB

Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Washburn High School

In addition to your work at WP:WPSCH/A, I would appreciate if you could take some time to look at Washburn High School, which I've been working on for the past 3 days or so. I have a peer review already setup. I know it needs work, but you might have some additional insight.

Thanks, — Calebrw (talk) 02:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I will give a full reply, re-assess, and add to the peer review shortly. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Y Done Camaron | Chris (talk) 14:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Conformation

I have requested that the local Camaron usernames on the Español and Francais Wikipedias be usurped out of the way for a re-attempt by me to create a global log-in account. I am using my alternate already unified account - Camaron2. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Spokespersons

I added the names that were missing from the spokespersons section.I hope you dont mind.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.76.219 (talk)

No I don't mind, add to it as you feel is appropriate, sourced content is preferred. Camaron | Chris (talk) 10:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

OK i will add as much as possible,and I can only source youtube as a source if that is acceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.76.219 (talk) 13:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Now all the spokesperson section have been completed.Israeli,Cypriot and the French name still have to be confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.76.219 (talk) 08:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you for your help. If you find info from YouTube it is usually from a TV program of some sort - if that is the case cite the TV program. Camaron | Chris (talk) 09:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome :)

Welcome to WP:Sims

Hello CT Cooper! Welcome to Wikiproject Sims! Thank you for joining. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Templates {{WPSims}} {{WP SIMS INVITE}} Userboxen {{User WP Sims 1}} This user is part of the Sims task force {{User WP Sims 2}} This user is part of the Sims task force Projects Member List Newsletter Similar WikiProjects Video Games • Games Other Worklist Log

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page or on the project talk page. Thanks! EE 14:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. Camaron | Chris (talk) 16:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU, Status, and you!

As you may know, the StatusBot responsible for maintaining the status of the Highly Active Users was taken offline. We now have a replacement in the Qui status system. This semi-automatic system will allow you to easily update your status page found at Special:Mypage/Status which the HAU page code is now designed to read from. If you are already using Qui (or a compatible system) - great! - no action is needed (other than remembering to update your status as necessary). If not, consider installing Qui. You can also manually update this status by changing the page text to online, offline, or busy. While it is not mandatory, the nature of HAU is that people are often seeking a quick answer from someone who is online and keeping our statuses up-to-date will assist with this. Note if you were previously using your /Status page as something other than a one-word status indicator, your HAU entry may have been set to "status=n" to correct display issues. Please clear this parameter if you change things to be "HAU compatible". Further questions can be raised at WT:HAU. This message was delivered by xenobot 23:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

"Level 1 Warning"

Hello Camaron, I'm new here in english-speaking wikipedia. Can you tell me what a "Level 1 Warning" is? Greetings, Pink Evolution (talk) 19:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, template warnings, such as the one you used on a unregistered user, come in different levels on how they treat the user they are given to, these are...

• Level 1 – Assumes good faith. Generally includes "Welcome to Wikipedia" or some variant.
• Level 2 – No faith assumption
• Level 3 – Assumes bad faith; cease and desist
• Level 4 – Assumes bad faith; strong cease and desist, last warning
• Level 4im – Assumes bad faith; strong cease and desist, first and only warning

A catalogue of user warnings can be found at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace, with different levels for every warning type. An example of escalating warnings is with warning a user about making vandalism edits....

• Level 1 warning (uw-vandalism1): Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.
• Level 2 warning (uw-vandalim2): Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.
• Level 3 warning (uw-vandalism3): Please stop your disruptive editing. If your vandalism continues, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
• Level 4 warning (uw-vandalism4): This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing.
• Level 4im warning (uw-vandalism4im): This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
  If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing.

When a user does an inappropriate action, another user will warn them usually starting at a level 1 warning. If the user ignores this warning then a new warning is given at the next level up (such as level 2), and the warnings will continue escalating if a user does not stop. For administrators to justify a block, a recent level 3 or level 4 warning will need to have been given. Hope that helps you understand. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Glendora Curve

Re: this Nowhere near the 3rr, the template instructs discussion, which was going on above where you put the template (you thus killed the discussion) and my last edit was 4 hours before you templated me. All in all, a very bad bit of templating. Please be more careful in future, even when dealing with IP editors. Thank you. 91.85.188.90 (talk) 07:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Looking at how you have previously responded to warnings, I was partially expecting a response like this and I do not agree with it. You reverted Glendora Curve three times within in a 24 hour period on 15 July 2008, another revert would resulted in a violation of the WP:3RR, the edit history is quite clear on the matter. As for it being 4 hours after, even then if you had returned and made another revert you would have violated 3RR - regardless of this it is always sensible to warn people about 3RR if they have been involved in a edit war and it is not clear if they are aware of this policy or not. If you think you are being warned just because you are an IP editor, the 3RR rule applies to everybody and I would have given the same warning to a registred user in a similar position. Camaron | Chris (talk) 08:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

The previous warnings were for vandalism and it was clearly not vandalism it was just distrust of IP editors. Youre not answering the other point: the template asks for discussion to now take place and that discussion was taking place right in front of you above where you templated. So the template was the wrong one, or the templating was inappropriate. But people here will only communicate with IP addresses via the nearest to hand template most of the time, it,s Wikipedia having it both ways, allowing IPs to edit but the npolicing them harshly as if they werenot actual people, so I dont blame you for defaulting to a template rather than communicating. If youd readthe discussion (or looked at my contribrusions) you would have seen that any ,edit war' was resolved in the discussion and I had stopped editing. You also used {{whois}} when you meant {{isp}} but that,s a different mistemplating. By the way this IP address is dynamic sadly, it was just luck that it stayed the same two days running for once. It,ll probably change at lunchtime today for no clear reason so you wont be able to reach me on thais talkpage >>>91.85.188.90 (talk) 08:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)