Talk:List of oldest living people

Bessie Roffey oldest living Canadian

Bessie died on June 22, 2008. Funeral to be held June 28, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.166.14.38 (talk) 02:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a source? I've looked online and I can't find anything about this. --Npnunda (talk) 01:47, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Well only that I live here and that I am on town council here and the anouncment was made there. Will have to see if our local paper puts the obit online next week. Other then that I have nothing no, but she is gone. I am not trying to cause a problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.155.25.255 (talk) 06:37, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

You're not causing a problem. --Npnunda (talk) 04:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

According to the WOP group (which, as has been discussed, is not reliable) she is deceased. Looks like the site will be updated soon enough, so we can remove her then (or earlier if a report pops up in the meantime) Cheers, CP 02:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Was she ill? Extremely sexy (talk) 02:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea. The National hasn't covered it (yet). Cheers, CP 03:20, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Limbo cases

I deleted the limbo cases. They were the same three they list on the GRG page. I feel they should not be listed. Because they havent been verified over a year the grg put them in limbo and are no longer verified. I'm only going to delete them once. If sombody adds them back on, I'm going to let it go. How do the rest of you feel about it? --Npnunda (talk) 00:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I say there's no need to keep them on. If the sources that we use (GRG, Guinness etc.) do not have enough information to publish them as alive, then they do not fit the title of this page as "living supercentenarians" If it were "possibly living supercentenarians", then that would be another case. Cheers, CP 02:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

As a note, I can say that all these three are now dead by implication. Oldest in their respective prefectures have been announced who are younger than they would be. This is of course "originial research", but as long as these are the limbo cases grg has, I think it's still not unimportant. (Yubiquitoyama (talk) 02:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC))

That's right, man. Extremely sexy (talk) 02:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

That's not really original research even, because you don't have to discover unpublished material or create a synthesis to come to the conclusion. For example, we know that Charles Lavaivre is deceased because reliable sources indicate that Signe Johansson-Engdahl is the oldest living Olympian. Cheers, CP 02:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Good to know. Even so, in this particular case, they COULD of course still be alive and have moved to a different prefecture, although I would say it is highly unlikely. (Yubiquitoyama (talk) 10:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC))

Impossible, since Canada is not like Japan. Extremely sexy (talk) 12:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I see that the 8th oldest person in the world Manuela Fernandez Fojaca has been removed from the verified list with a notation that she has been placed in Limbo. She also has her own individual page? Should that now be removed? I do see that GRG also placed her in Limbo, so this is probably appropriate. TFBCT1 (talk) 18:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Catherine Hagel

I was wondering if it was time to give Catherine Hagel her own article. I contacted Star Tribune and I have permission for a photo. I wanted to see what other people felt. Also, I have no clue how to delink from list of supercentenarians from the United States. --Npnunda (talk) 22:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I thought I had permission for a photo but it got speedy deleted. The administrator was correct in doing so. I only asked for permission on wikipedia and you need a free license. Live and learn. --Npnunda (talk) 03:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Have started the page. DerbyCountyinNZ (talk) 02:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll see if I can find anything else to add. --Npnunda (talk) 04:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Could you send me that picture though? Extremely sexy (talk) 16:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Myrtle Jones

Can anyone find a report of her 111th birthday? 89.242.32.64 (talk) 16:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Captain celery

Doreen Washington is apparently the 4th oldest person in Australia, with a 112 year old woman from Victoria the oldest and Beatrice Riley and Myrtle Jones presumably in between. Or perhaps they were mistaken and Riley is the Victoria woman and we're missing someone else. But there is no citation for Jones' 111th birthday, so she's got to go. 84.13.47.181 (talk) 20:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)Captain celery

Still on Italian family names

I already posed the question (see archive). It is known that Italians don't have two family names. In case of women, since 1975 they legally hold their maiden name. No dash is needed between names or surnames (unlike in French). Then, Maria-Elisa Moro-Lucchini is probably just Maria Elisa Moro. I don't know where the odd usage adopted here comes from. If sources are needed and the linked article [1] doesn't seem sufficient, I don't know where to find them. Anyway, since these people are fortunately still alive, you can find them on Italian White Pages. Search Lauria Lucia, and you will find a woman from Pietrapertosa. Search Grotta Lina, and you will find a woman from Ardenza near Leghorn. Search Lauria Vigna Lucia or Grotta-Marinozzi Lina and you will find... nothing at all. I'm going to correct these two names, at least, hoping the same handling will be adopted for the others, 'cause there's nothing to prove... it's a well-known fact (look at any Wikipedia article about married Italian women). --Erinaceus Italicus (talk) 11:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, and go ahead. Extremely sexy (talk) 19:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I will only adjust the third name available here (Venere Pizzinato-Papo), clearly appearing as the result of a marriage. As for the others, there's an outside chance of surnames indicating either a noble descent or an adoption. I wouldn't bet on it, :-) but the source is actually missing. I also remove the dashes. Best regards. --Erinaceus Italicus (talk) 20:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Very well, but I even thought that Lauria was the second name of Lucia Vigna (so not another surname of hers), hence no dash at all in it. Extremely sexy (talk) 21:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)