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Ranking

When and who decides the ranking, in particular when will the Emirates Stadium in London be classified? --Vivbaker 11:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if/when Emirates Stadium will be given a rating but I read somewhere the stadium first has to nominate itself for hosting a Champions League final before it is assessed by UEFA. Qwghlm 23:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accuracy of list

When modifying the templates I noticed that they included stadiums that are not on the referenced list. I've opened discussions at Template talk:UEFA4Star and Template talk:UEFA5Star - if anyone has any relevant information please reply there. Qwghlm 23:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MCG

no MCG? :(

MCG is in Australia, and therefore, not under UEFA (the European Football Authority). Eastlygod 18:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

expalin someone why SJP is not on here

Emirates is a 5 star Stadium, so is the new Wembley. SJP is, I believe, 4 star soon to be upgraded to 5-star.

Read the criteria list. The only difference between 4* and 5* is the capacity. SJP has a capacity of over 50,000 and therefore can never be rated as a four-star stadium. This isn't a list of how "good" a ground is. It's a list based on stadia meeting set criteria. 23:19, 02 February 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.153.21.150 (talk)

I would think is was due to the airport and accommodation factors. However Teeside Airport is getting more and more international flights, so it could be in future. Eastlygod 19:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wembley should be added 194.80.32.12 12:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thats upto uefa not wikipedia contributors. i beleive the wembeley and emirites will be added when sufficient games have been played there. --Numberwang 16:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about the Allianz Arena --Numberwang 16:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Celtic Park

Shouldn't Celtic Park be on either the 4* or 5* lists?

On the UEFA website there is a comment on how there are 3 5* Stadiums in Glasgow, and includes Celtic Park in that list :

"Scottish hospitality If the bid is successful, Scotland will host the opening match and the final of the tournament, as well as three of the four groups, three quarter-finals and a semi-final. Ireland will host one of the four groups, as well as a quarter-final and a semi-final. The exact stadium details have yet to be confirmed but Glasgow's three UEFA five-star stadiums - Celtic FC's Celtic Park, Rangers FC's Ibrox stadium and Hampden Park - will be used as well as Edinburgh's Murrayfield stadium."

Source on UEFA website

Wembley Stadium

What's the new Wembley rated? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xhandler (talk • contribs) 01:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

it needs to apply for a final to be officially rated by uefa, smething which wembley and the fa wll do soon no doubt perhaps for 2010--Numberwang 11:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

finally a source for this. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/kevin_eason/article1826791.ece --Numberwang 11:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The news it that Wembley has been shortlisted for the CL final in 2010 or 2011. Can we infer from that, that UEFA has given it a 5 star rating http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2007/10/23/ufnwembley123.xml 129.67.158.52 13:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Emirates Stadium

Did they apply for a rating? GoldDragon 22:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

is was probably built with the standars in mind but needs to bid to host a final before it gets officially rated.--Numberwang 11:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it now considered 4-star? It recently lost out to Hamburg SV to host the UEFA Cup in 2010- "Rival bids from Munich and Berlin were also overlooked, while Arsenal lost out to Hamburg for the 2010 Uefa Cup final." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7319045.stm). --Beauty lies in the eye of the beer-holder... 23:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, no worries...found the answer--Beauty lies in the eye of the beer-holder... 20:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Db1987db (talk • contribs)

Capacity requirement change?

There's a discussion on the SkyScraperCity.com forum here, basically saying that capacity requirements have changed from 50 to 70,000 for 5-star (and from 30 to 40,000 for 4-star). Does anyone have any more info? CharlieT 22:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anfield

Shouldn't Anfield be on the four star list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.66.153 (talk) 00:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marker missing for Stadium of Light on map

The map showing the 4 star and 5 star stadia is missing a marker for the Sunderland Stadium of Light. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.189.78 (talk) 18:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, was just going to add that. The map is quite wrong.--128.240.229.66 (talk) 11:08, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

this is so ridiculous

this page is so fucking ridiculous, how are we suppose to know whether or not the stadiums are 4 or 5 stars if UEFA don't release any info on it!? these people are saying "no that stadium is not 5 stars" but they dont provide citations for anything. you say st james' park is not 5 stars but why is it not 4 stars at least? it hosted games at the euro 96 championship. and most of the stadiums from france 98 are not listed, why not? Also that map has not citations and it does not label the stadiums either. why is there a marker for a 4 star stadium in north wales? stadium of light is not featured. What about white hart lane. this list is endless. official citations and proper explanations are in dire need.

Contradict template

Reason: map contradicts table at bottom of article (e.g., England). Ufwuct (talk) 05:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scoreboards and video boards?

Are there any specific criteria or requirements for scoreboards and/or video replay screens? 76.21.8.213 (talk) 17:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Official UEFA list

Instead of keeping the contradicitions on this page and elsewhere (Wembley page has it marked as 5-star, Old Trafford page mentions it's the only 5-star stadium in England, etc]] is it not possible to find an official UEFA list somewhere? I had a brief look on the UEFA webpage, but either my searchfu isn't working, or UEFA don't publish such a list. Darkson (BOOM! An interception!) 14:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do UEFA Classify on this basis anymore?

The only reference on their web-site (link below) of stadium Standards is for Class 1, 2, 3 and Elite? Vivbaker (talk) 11:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/551788.pdf

There is a UEFA regulations website here:

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/mediaservices/regulations/index.html

The document you found is there and it is the newest one describing stadium classifiactions. Also there are other documents describing (among a lot of other content) the requirements to host various events here:

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/download/regulations/uefa/others/70/22/60/702260_download.pdf (champions league)

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/download/regulations/uefa/others/70/22/70/702270_download.pdf (uefa cup)

There are more but anyway, the documents are new (referring to season 2008/09) and refer just to category 1, 2, 3, and Elite. So Five-Star-Stadium is an out-of-date concept. OdinFK (talk) 18:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are correct. This UEFA story from 17 January 2007 states:

UEFA's stadium infrastructure stipulations and safety and security regulations have evolved over the years and are now being laid down in one set of regulations which will come into effect at the start of next season.

The regulations document above states:

Article 38 – Adoption and entry into force

1 These regulations were adopted by the UEFA Executive Committee at its meeting on 5 October 2006.

2 They come into force on 1 June 2007.

So I guess the 4/5 stars stuff has been dead since the start of last season. "Elite" seems to replace both 4 and 5 star, and has a minimum capacity of only 30000 (though other requirements are relatively stringent: Bernabeu's Elite status last November required some significant remodelling blogpost). The Champions League and UEFA Cup regulations docs seem not to specify any requirement beyind Elite for the Final match, which is odd: I can't imagine the CL final in Milton Keynes. jnestorius^(talk) 21:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should this just be deleted?

From reading the entry itself, this talk page and the uefa website it seems that:

There is no such thing as a UEFA Stadium List

The 4 Star / 5 Star rating system has been obsolete for over a year. Lostcause1798 (talk) 12:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I propose a rename to UEFA Elite Stadium list. Reading this it does appear that it does exist under this name, however, more information is harder to find. Perhaps a split should be made regarding the 4 Star/5 Star ratings. Unless the list I mentioned refers to the same criteria? The ranking system does exist unless this would be quite strange. The fact that the starring system is obsolete isn't really cause for deletion, just a rewrite into the past tense. Middle-age cannons have been obsolete for years but we still have an article about them! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 13:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As stated such a list doesn't seem to exist, at least officially. Listing all the stadiums, which satisfy all criteria actually would create such a list. But as long as no official list exists I wonder if it is feasible to create the list as the there are lots of criteria and who can really say, whether all of them are fulfilled by Stadium X unless the stadium hosted a major event in recent years. If nobody can come up with a good idea, how to do just that I think it would be better not to have any list at all as it is just confusing. A concept stub would probably suffice.

For this article I suggest to strip it down to the very bone and just explain, that there was such a concept and it is outdated now. I guess that would be all anyone needed to know if s/he heard about the Stadia List. OdinFK (talk) 17:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From what I understand, under the old 4/5 star system, stadiums were only ever ‘rated’ if they had been nominated as a venue for a final. So many stadiums that would/could have been 4 or 5 stars would not have been on the list as they had never been nominated.

Equally, some stadiums that were nominated may have had temporary works carried out to make them suitable which were then reversed following the event, so were no longer 4/5 star stadiums.

This is also the case with the new criteria – an Elite stadium must have a VIP seated area with a capacity of at least 1500 people and a hospitality suite of at least 400m² for VIP’s. I would imagine that for your average run of the mill league game, most teams would not have this in place, but could make some changes if required for a final.

Similar rules exist for press and media positions – 200 broadband connected desks is probably not required day to day – but a club might have these temporarily installed for a specific event. Again does every stadium have 3 television studios available for use all the time – or would most teams just have some hospitality boxes or similar converted for a one-off event?

It appears in the few years this article has been on Wiki no-one has ever been able to produce an actual official list, all we have is a list of stadiums that have been used for specific finals or which people think must meet the criteria.

This is an entry for a document that seems to only exist in the heads of the contributors to this page. UEFA make reference to it on their website occasionally, but I have a feeling this is just as a shorthand way of saying 'verifying that a stadium meets the criteria to hold a CL final or whatever' Lostcause1798 (talk) 17:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have shifted the prod since this is a wholly encyclopaedic topic and the problems need fixing not the page deleting. I have moved the page to a title that enables the article to focus on the stadia as opposed to the list and is independent of a physical list existing. TerriersFan (talk) 20:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've made some changes - however the article still refers to 4 and 5 star stadia which doesn't appear to exist as a concept anymore with Cat 1, 2 , 3 or Elite replacing that. It appears that finals can now be held in Elite stadia and depending on the final, there will be a minimum capacity. I beleive this is 70,000 for CL Finals which would rule out about half of the current stadia listed as 5-star (which was the previous benchmark for CL Finals). If no-one has before me, I'll have a go at re-writing the whole thing at the weekend - with a paragraph referring to the old style of 4/5 star as a historical concept. Lostcause1798 (talk) 08:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 :I have shifted the prod since this is a wholly encyclopaedic topic and the problems need fixing not the page deleting. I have moved the page to a title that enables the article to focus on the stadia as opposed to the list and is independent of a physical list existing. [[User:TerriersFan|TerriersFan]] ([[User talk:TerriersFan|talk]]) 20:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
+::I see you've made some changes - however the article still refers to 4 and 5 star stadia which doesn't appear to exist as a concept anymore with Cat 1, 2 , 3 or Elite replacing that.  It appears that finals can now be held in Elite stadia and depending on the final, there will be a minimum capacity.  I beleive this is 70,000 for CL Finals which would rule out about half of the current stadia listed as 5-star (which was the previous benchmark for CL Finals).  If no-one has before me, I'll have a go at re-writing the whole thing at the weekend - with a paragraph referring to the old style of 4/5 star as a historical concept. [[User:Lostcause1798|Lostcause1798]] ([[User talk:Lostcause1798|talk]]) 08:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)