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Kurbsky was not a "feudal lord", because there was no feudalism in Russia. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andrey_Kurbsky&diff=87567417&oldid=87563639 These edits] are intended to blacken his name. I don't think there was something extraordinary in his attitude towards serfs, whatever Ivan's propaganda has to say to the contrary. If you insist on adding this to the article, I will start listing the gruesome crimes ascribed by Kurbsky to Ivan in the article about the latter. Do you really want this, Bel-Velvel? --<font color="FC4339">[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]]</font> <sup><font color="C98726">[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</font></sup> 17:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Kurbsky was not a "feudal lord", because there was no feudalism in Russia. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andrey_Kurbsky&diff=87567417&oldid=87563639 These edits] are intended to blacken his name. I don't think there was something extraordinary in his attitude towards serfs, whatever Ivan's propaganda has to say to the contrary. If you insist on adding this to the article, I will start listing the gruesome crimes ascribed by Kurbsky to Ivan in the article about the latter. Do you really want this, Bel-Velvel? --<font color="FC4339">[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]]</font> <sup><font color="C98726">[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</font></sup> 17:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


== Antero Kurppa ( Woodkock) ==
== Antero (Andrei) Mihailinpoika (Mihail´s Son) Kurppa ( Woodkock) ==


Original Meri language name not known (yet) but this is the Finnish version of his name.
Original Meri language name not known (yet) but this is the Finnish version of his name.

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Kurbsky was not a "feudal lord", because there was no feudalism in Russia. These edits are intended to blacken his name. I don't think there was something extraordinary in his attitude towards serfs, whatever Ivan's propaganda has to say to the contrary. If you insist on adding this to the article, I will start listing the gruesome crimes ascribed by Kurbsky to Ivan in the article about the latter. Do you really want this, Bel-Velvel? --Ghirla -трёп- 17:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Antero (Andrei) Mihailinpoika (Mihail´s Son) Kurppa ( Woodkock)

Original Meri language name not known (yet) but this is the Finnish version of his name. Origins in middle of Meriland (Meräland), Russian Merjaland.

He was one who openly discussed of Ivan the Cruel´s homosexuality.

JN

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