User talk:Janke/Archive 1

OK, this is supposed to be a place to chat about what we do... Janke 10:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Forney and other steam

I think your edit on Matthias N. Forney today was the fasest edit from another user that I've gotten on any of the railroad-related articles that I've written. Way cool. I've linked the photo on the Forney page too. Thanks for uploading it.

Oh, and by the way, I've taken a look at a few of the other photo uploads that you mentioned in your note to me recently. Very nice. I've made a couple minor edits to grammar and links in the captions as well as adding whitespace where needed to flow around the photo. slambo June 29, 2005 15:32 (UTC)

Finland-Swedish

Nice to hear that you like my suggestions :) I'd, however, prefer to wait a couple of days for other comments as well because I'm not sure that it should be placed under "Ethnicity", which already seems to be a bit of a mess already. Perhaps it should be in the introduction.

/Mathias_Johansson | Talk

Flag of Finland

Hello! Thanks for your note. The flag of Finland I drew, however, used the colour blue as specified by the Finland Ministry of the Interior, so I may revert this.

Moreover, I (and others) tend to not include borders with flags for two reasons: (1) from a vexillogical perspective, borders are properly not part of a flag, and (2) I tend to not include them when one can more easily discern where the edges of a flag are or should be. You can denote where the white on the Finnish flag begins and ends through inferrence of the dimensions of the blue cross; the Flag of Japan, on the otherhand, is different because it is difficult to surmise where the white begins and ends. Thoughts? E Pluribus Anthony 17:29, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi there; thanks for your reply. As a designer, I'm well aware of the differences inherent with PMS and other colour-matching systems like RGB, CMYK, RSL, etc.; my point is that the colours represented should be official ones, not approximated ... irregardless of approximations when converting or viewing them. This can also apply to photographs, so your perception of what is the correct blue may be different from mine (though I do not challenge your belief that the blue in the picture is lighter than in the flag image). Without there being an agreed-upon standard for representing colours (and you nor I can say certainly if the specs provided are for print or screen), the official colour specifications should suffice or ones be used that can be found on or sampled from a Finnish government website depicting the flag. (This same rationale, by the way, was applied to the Flag of Canada, which uses a precise red, and was a collaboration between myself and another user.)

And while I may not be Finnish (which is not a ground for substantiation), you need only proceed to the submenu on the website I cited to view a diagram of the Finnish flag that is darker than your representation and similar to the one I drew. Moreover, I do not think it weird for the flag to not have a border, I think it cheapens it: since the Wikipedia background is off-white (a light-blue, I believe), I can resolve the flag edges. Preferably, borders (even light ones) should only be used when absolutely necessary (i.e., when you can't resolve the beginning or end of whites in other flags, as in the Japanese flag). Perhaps you need a new monitor or should adjust its Gamma? Thoughts? E Pluribus Anthony 21:32, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again for your prompt reply. In response:

(1) Even with your review and exposure (and I do note your review of the website), the blue in your image is far lighter than specified on the government website and in the images I cited and created (and darker than in the photograph there). (2), (4) I think it far more important to use the specs provided--CMYK numbers et al.--and not rely merely on what looks right, as this is a matter of interpretation. (3) The presence of a border on so small an image, as for Lokomo, does nothing for it so its presence may be unnecessary. Moreover, the background is still off-white so a border does not add value.

So, I believe the best course of action is to use or devise a flag using the official colour specifications (as in the previous image I created) but to include a light grey border. Unless other input is forthcoming or a differing viewpoint from others, this is what I'll work on. Thoughts? E Pluribus Anthony 21:57, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

PS: PMS is generally for print but we cannot say certainly that this is applicable in this instance. E Pluribus Anthony 21:58, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes: perhaps we should be chatting. ;) I may 'cheat' a little, but the PMS colours noted should ultimately reign supreme (remember the online diagrams of the national and state flags on the government website...)

As for the border, we can agree to disagree: if the Wikipedia background were not so 'white,' I and others would prefer no borders even on white flags (since they are not properly part of the flag); visit the Flags of the World website and you will find few if any white and other flags with borders. There's still room for stiffies and not, however, and I don't consider myself the former. I'm not easy, though.  ;)

As for the Canadian flag, the red used is consistent with specifications and online instances. The Royal Military College flag is a photo and not the same (but this flag served as a template for the Canadian flag). Besides, the prior versions of the Canadian flag online were absolutely horrible renditions and it started to drive me nuts. Anyhow, thanks for your feedback. :) E Pluribus Anthony 22:33, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

re: Eisner Award

...but the page clearly states it's the Will Eisner award. Besides, Michael Eisner has next-to-nothing to do with comics, and there have to be several other notable peopel with the last name "Eisner" that it could be confused for as well. Placing such a note just seems...frivolous. Perhaps an Eisner disambiguation page is in order? (Wait...there already is one. Well, never mind, then.) --FuriousFreddy 01:41, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Flag of Finland

Hi!

File:Finland flag large.png

I have seen that there has been some new Flags uploaded. I wonder if it should be so dark? I saw you were having a discussion on a user page about it. I think that it would be easier for others to following if the discussion was conducted on the talk page of the image: Image_talk:Finland flag large.png where I would be able to participate.

I also want to draw your attention to the fact that the current flag is of more than 3,000 bytes, which is ten times larger than one earlier version. This may be irrelevant at first thought, but as all Finland-stub pages use the flag, it may be a considerable amount of pages that unnecessarily increase the server load by all visitors :-)

All the best, --Fred-Chess 13:15, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I do not know if you have noticed, but I wrote a reply on my user page. --Fred-Chess 14:45, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Finland-Swedish map

Thank you for adding the very informative map of the distrubtion of Finland-Swedish to Swedish language. I've been wanting one of those for quite a while now. Would you be interested in making similar maps for Finnish, Danish and perhaps Norwegian if I can find good info on the distribution of their respective dialects?

Peter ^Isotalo 15:06, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

That was thoroughly unexpected! Thanks!

Now, back to work getting additional accurate information in place on these articles... slambo 01:57, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

Flag of Finland

Hey there! Thanks for pointing this out; my error regarding the borderless flag. Please update. Moreover, I've been trying to clean up this and that from my user and other pages, and it is my page ... so I'll part with whatever I can. Merci! E Pluribus Anthony 21:48, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Merci ... thanks for your attention to this! So many updates, so little time ... E Pluribus Anthony 22:19, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Cartoon physics

No, no, no - the article isn't a spoof - it's an article about a spoof. Your three laws were very clever, but they aren't part of the ongoing culture (so to speak) of cartoon physics, so they don't belong in an encyclopedia article about the phenomenon. If you launch them into cyberspace elsewhere and they get widely taken up, then they might be part of it. But we also don't want it to degenerate into a long list of funny things that cartoons do, as the article is wont to do. - DavidWBrooks 16:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Reverting vandalism

Re: [1]

No problem, always happy to help. This appears to be the same guy who was vandalising the article last night. I've put up a notice on the Admin's noticeboard, so hopefully more people will be keeping an eye out. -Loren 07:14, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

girl

Glad to hear everything got sorted out ok. So what do you think of the image? I like it, but to me she looks more like a young woman than a girl... Tasks you can do 21:18, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, for you (and only for you ;) I've changed my signature. Sam Spade 21:29, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Girl is the collaboration of the week! Please come grow this article... Mamawrites 03:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Copyvio message box

I think your idea about the warning box is great. (I'm an artist myself, sometimes involved in intellectual property issues in my work.) I have one question for you: You said: "The notice should have a distinguishing class/id so that experienced users can suppress it." Can you explain "class/id" or point to a WP reference page - I fear I'm still a bit of a "WP noobie"... ;-) --Janke | Talk 15:11:09, 2005-09-02 (UTC)

Sorry if my allusion was cryptic. We badly need a help page on using CSS in Wikipedia, but I'm afraid I don't have time to write one this morning. Bovlb 15:20:34, 2005-09-02 (UTC)

Babel template protection

I have protected the templates for the English language, which indeed suffer from repeated vandalism. I have also added a note to the Talk page of en-4 to avoid any problems with the parties involved in the discussion. Cheers, --Sn0wflake 21:26, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Help with deletion

Done. slambo 10:30, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

girl -- table

I wish I knew how to put the contents box in the table! I could unsquash the lefthand cell a bit... I'll try that, and then let me know what you think? Mamawrites 06:28, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Let me see if I can find instructions on how to put the contents box into the table. I'll do it as soon as I have finished the new section I'm editing now, on the girl in popular culture. (Perhaps with your background in animation, you can help internationalize the section more!) If I can't figure out how to put the contents box into the table, I will revert my changes to your original layout tomorrow, I promise. Mamawrites 06:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that tip about __TOC__! That was exactly what I needed to put as an entry in the table I had been trying to create, with the TOC in column 1, one picture in column 2, and the second picture in column 3. Now I think it looks pretty good. Do you agree?

I'm going to try to find a good space for the picture of the girl in the racecar. I do think that the contrast between the paper dolls picture and the racecar picture is useful. Mamawrites 22:14, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

It was a pleasure to work with you this week!

For your contributions to the CotW focusing on Girl in September, 2005, I, Mamawrites, award you, Janke, this THANK YOU.

Re: Requests

Took a quick look, protected untitled.* and picture.* as noted in the discussion. Looks like I was a little late to the party on the anonymous user as the last edit from that user is timestamped before the last warning (although it was a bit amusing to see that one of the anon's edits was a spelling correction on one of the earlier warnings). I'm a little hesitant to put a block on anons because of the way many DSL and cable providers use DHCP to assign IP addresses, and there's been discussion on WP:AN about anon blocks also affecting legitimate users, especially users on AOL. If he pops up again with similar behavior you might get a faster response on WP:ANI. slambo 13:50, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

RE: Walt Disney

Yes, it was harsh, but it's starting to get on my nerves. It's mostly just because the go unnoticed. --Lyght 07:04, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

RE: FH5+2

Thank you for your note. I am a real fan of those talented guys, especially of the banjo players Harper Goff and Dick Roberts. I added some more informations to their pages too. VegavoxIV 14:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)