User talk:Collect

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Yankees

Look at History of baseball team nicknames for details, rather than my repeating myself too much. :) They were first called Yankees the same year they were first called Highlanders. I think which name was used varied from newspaper to newspaper. The same deal happened with the Cubs, which were called Colts by some papers and Cubs by others. Modern fans don't understand how things worked in those days. Nearly every nickname of the classic 16 teams originated in the newspapers. Sometimes the clubs even asked the reporters to come up with a new nickname. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I knew a bit about the nicknames -- what surprised me was the use of two names in a single article. Then I wondered if the nickname had an older basis .. guess I should read the article. Collect (talk) 02:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

It's not unusual, then or now. Think of the Yankees being called the Bombers or other names. Or the White Sox being called the Pale Hose or the Chisox. Or the Cubs being called the North Siders or the Denizens of Wrigley. Now go back to the 1910s or 1920s, and you might see "Dodgers" and "Robins" in the same article; or "Senators" and "Nationals" (or "Nats") in the same article. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:52, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

James Cagney donations

Hi there. Thanks for your addition of a source for this article. There's not much around on Cagney's politics, and I'll certainly include the ref (so it actually shows up, which it doesn't appear to in Categories) when I get round to writing about his politics, which seem to have changed during his lifetime. --11:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I think his politics changed about the time he met Cohan <g>. (I think the template specifically ignores refs, but they show up when editing -- either an undocumented feature or a glitch. Thanks! Collect (talk) 11:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Possibly, though i'd be reluctant to necessarily link the two things together without a reliable source to do it for me! --Ged UK (talk)

All is anecdotal - they met according to the studio, but Cohan died fairly soon after. Not that keeps WP articles from being laced with them, of course. My reference to "meeting Cohan", however, was to the work on YDD (hence the <g>), not the anecdote. I suspect the machinations of the CPUSA regarding the Russia-Germany treaty made a lot of folks rethink politics. Collect (talk) 14:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Aye, it's hard to source accurately. Certainly WW2 made lots of people re-assess their politics, perhaps unneccesarily, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if JC did too. --Ged UK (talk) 14:31, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Found hard copy of "Cagney by Cagney" -- fills in a bit. Collect (talk)

Your opinion on NPOV Sarah Palin?

Please post at talk. LamaLoLeshLa (talk) 03:29, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

MisterAlbert

Hi. Please see this. Gwen Gale (talk) 08:13, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I am not totally surprised at this, having read up on his history. Dave Collect (talk) 11:35, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Joe the Plumber

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Joe the Plumber, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I am unsure what template I deled. Collect (talk) 15:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Huh? I deled a section (not a "template") in dispute which has an absurd number of references attached. In addition, the reason was given in the edit summary. And I would appreciate AGF. Thanks! Collect (talk) 15:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Your point is well-made (whether I agree with your reasoning or not), and I apologize. This issue tends to bring out the worst in all of us, I fear. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem! Collect (talk) 16:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

FYI

Talk:Joe_the_Plumber#RFC_on_Joe_the_Plumber_tax_lien_on_house Inclusionist (talk) 19:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Facts707...

This guy/girl is obviously collaborating with 4Ls, but I don't know how to handle this. I could employ a strategy well-known by Powell regarding Theater Nuclear War, but I don't see this as worth taking myself out of the picture for just a pawn. Appreciate any suggestion. Fcreid (talk) 14:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Several editors have cross-linked spoor on user talk pages at this point. This one may be a sockpuppet for sure, to aid in a wrestling event. Thanks! Collect (talk) 14:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Palin image?

I note that the CFD tag is removed on the "Palin-Nowhere" image, but I can not find any report that WP had received proper license yet. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks! Collect (talk) 14:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

It was removed incorrectly by the uploader. I've restored it. Nice catch. Stifle (talk) 14:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I wish there was a WP:ASSUMEACCIDENT article ... Collect (talk) 14:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

No tag on SP page at all, at least the tag is on the image page. Collect (talk) 16:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

inuse

I had some problems creating this request. Please look at my edit history.

I am sorry for any problems or confusion which I caused. I added a {{inuse}} tag to the page, please confine your comments to the talk page for now, and you can remove the comments which are in the wrong sections later after I am done and remove the {{inuse}} tag. Again, sorry for the confusion. Inclusionist (talk) 02:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I have finished creating the Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Joe the Plumber and removed the {{inuse}} tag. You are welcome to edit. I suggest moving your comments elsewhere. The only comments on the actual page should be what issues to be resolved. Again, I apologize for the confusion and thanks for your understanding and patience. I respect your tenacity and passion on this issue. Inclusionist (talk) 02:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

BLP privacy policy for limited public figures

I think that the current deadlock on Joe the plumber is due to unclear BLP policy on limited public figures. I've made a proposal to clarify the policy here. Since you are one of the parties involved in the dispute, this is a notification for your input on the proposed policy clarification. VG ☎ 10:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I have provided substantial input on that policy, based on an increasing body of international law. Collect (talk) 12:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Palin talk page

I removed a comment before you, as the talk page is not a forum for providing links to whereever. Hope you don't mind. Cheers! --Tom 13:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

OH <g>. Straight commercial spam that. Collect (talk) 14:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Muthee

Thanks for your efforts on the Thomas Muthee page. However, you pulled some sources because they were in another language. While I understand your objection, that leaves the sentence totally unsourced. Please put the sources back, or (sadly for me, who worked hard to find it) take out the whole sentence. Regards. FangedFaerie (Talk | Edits) 18:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I really think that we can find English sources for almost all of it -- using sources which few understand has been done in the past to insert erroneous material in some articles. Surely there is a Kenya paper which will give the opening dates for the school? Jclemens will, I think, vouch for my feelings on sources.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:REF#Sources_in_different_languages "Because this is the English Wikipedia, English-language sources should be given whenever possible, and should always be used in preference to other language sources of equal caliber. However, do use sources in other languages where appropriate. If quoting from a different language source, an English translation should be given with the original-language quote beside it." is the official style guideline for WP. Thanks! Collect (talk) 19:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Cool down

Take another look. He did not do what you think he did. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

He did move stuff around -- the worse stuff was the other day. Thanks. Collect (talk) 21:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

No he copied stuff, He probably could have done with putting it in quotes but I do think he did it in good faith. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Still confusing after all the 30 edits overnight. I fear I think he is abusing process in order to prevent reaching a consensus he does not desire. Collect (talk) 21

56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

No I don't think so. I actually think his edits today are to try and reach a consensus. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 22:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Mirabile visu! Collect (talk) 22:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Prescott Bush

Please do not feed the trolls as you are doing on this talk page. Engaging in such conversation is pointless and only disrupts the talk page further. Instead, you should remove all discussions not related to article edits. --Ave Caesar (talk) 11:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Most of the time it has actually worked -- so while I appreciate the suggestion (and I have deleted pure trolls) I felt that this particular case as it reflected what had made it into the main article in the past had to be addressed. Yes -- that stuff had once been in the main article. Sigh. Collect (talk) 12:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)