Talk:Prescott Bush

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Prescott Bush, the Business Plot, and Nazi-entanglement.[edit]

I first learned of Prescott Bush's involvement with the Business Plot from reading Wikipedia. Now both the articles about the Business Plot and Prescott Bush have been scrubbed of reference to each other. I read the talk page for Prescott Bush, and found that the great editors determined that there was flimsy evidence to support the claims. And while I think it is admirable to clear a man's name decades after his death on the basis of good sense, I think their is ample evidence to link Prescott Bush to both incidents. Just a quick Googling of "Prescott Bush Business Plot" links you to this article from Harper's Magazine. And a quick search for "Prescott Bush Nazi" returns this article from The Guardian.

Now Harper's and the Guardian are not rags dedicated to the cause of paranoia, and to say that they don't rise to the level of credible Wikipedia sources is, to my mind, a little nuts. Even if this is not enough citation to prove Prescott Bush's guilt, I think it is more than enough to warrant mentioning the allegations.

The connection between Prescott Bush and the Business Plot is the McCormack-Dickstein Congressional committee, the precursor of what became the House Un-American Activities Committee. That committee investigated both Bush (or a company he was involved in; I rather doubt Bush himself was investigated) and the plot - but in separate investigations. Bush was of interest due to his involvement with the Hamburg America Line, suspected of Nazi links, and that's what Harper's Blog is talking about. The Guardian similarly discusses Bush's business connections to Nazi Germany and to German businessmen that supported the Nazi Party. The Business Plot was completely unrelated. It had nothing to do with Germany, Nazis, the Hamburg America Line and, by extension, Prescott Bush. This article already discusses Bush's Nazi ties (or lack thereof), based on more reliable sources than Harper's Blog, but there simply is nothing but a misunderstanding connecting Bush to the Business Plot. Huon (talk) 20:50, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
The Guardian article contains more info that could be used in this article. It also mentions several books which could probably be used. --WikiHannibal (talk) 19:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Agreed, this information should be included as it is a matter of record. Harper's and the Guardian are both top-tier primary sources. (talk) 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

There's clearly some whitewashing going on here. Prescott was a goddamned Nazi, he made money doing business with other Nazis, and his son went into the family business as head of the CIA, a key institutional enemy of liberty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:4F00:34D1:780B:76A2:643F:A13A (talk) 22:44, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Military service[edit]

The section on military service needs some major improvements. For instance "After graduation, Bush served as a field artillery captain with the American Expeditionary Forces" implies he went straight from Yale to France. Presumably he joined the army and was trained prior to going to France! He must have been in the army for some time to reach the rank of captain. "He received intelligence training at Verdun" - from whom, the French?. What does "was briefly assigned to a staff of French officers" mean? To a division HQ, battalion, or just a loose group of officers, as is implied? "Alternating between intelligence and artillery, he came under fire in the Meuse-Argonne offensive" does not clarify matters, confusing combat experience with unit. Was he actually in combat as an artilleryman?Royalcourtier (talk) 23:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Conspiracy theories...[edit]

... like pretty much everything else, require reliable sources. This includes the so-called "Business Plot". Rklawton (talk) 15:34, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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