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:<span class="plainlinksneverexpand lx">[[:Image:{{ucfirst:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg}}]] ([{{fullurl:Image:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg|action=delete}} delete] | [[Image talk:{{ucfirst:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg}}|talk]] | [{{fullurl::Image:{{ucfirst:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode::Image:{{ucfirst:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg}}}}}} logs])</span> - uploaded by [[User talk:Smoth 007#Image:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg listed for deletion|Smoth 007]] (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:User_talk:Smoth 007|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro&section=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify]</span> | [[Special:Contributions/Smoth 007|contribs]]).
:<span class="plainlinksneverexpand lx">[[:Image:{{ucfirst:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg}}]] ([{{fullurl:Image:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg|action=delete}} delete] | [[Image talk:{{ucfirst:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg}}|talk]] | [{{fullurl::Image:{{ucfirst:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode::Image:{{ucfirst:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg}}}}}} logs])</span> - uploaded by [[User talk:Smoth 007#Image:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg listed for deletion|Smoth 007]] (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:User_talk:Smoth 007|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro&section=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify]</span> | [[Special:Contributions/Smoth 007|contribs]]).
*Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes no mention of the magazine publication. [[User:Damiens.rf|Damiens<small>.rf</small>]] 15:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
*Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes no mention of the magazine publication. [[User:Damiens.rf|Damiens<small>.rf</small>]] 15:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
This magazine cover shows the perception media at the time of the Waco conflict. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nickyrintala|Nickyrintala]] ([[User talk:Nickyrintala|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nickyrintala|contribs]]) 02:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*This magazine cover shows the perception media at the time of the Waco conflict. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nickyrintala|Nickyrintala]] ([[User talk:Nickyrintala|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nickyrintala|contribs]]) 02:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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November 3

Image:Itv3-Launch.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aidsoo (notify | contribs).
Image:Itv1.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aidsoo (notify | contribs).
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I agree, feel free to delete it. (I created it).Gabr-el 16:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Shokoa.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Esuqi (notify | contribs).
  • The use of this copyrighted Time Magazine cover is not justified. According to the fair use rationale, the image is used (1) to "show the level of infamy he [the guy featured] achieved" and (2) to "bring visual stimuli to an article mainly full of dense text". The first purpose could be accomplished with 1 line of text (like "the guy was so famous that he was on Time's cover that week) and the second (if really judged necessary) could be accomplished with some user created image (we can't simply say: This use is fair because otherwise our article would be boring). Damiens.rf 12:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Paterson bridge construction.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Nomadtales (notify | contribs).
  • Image has no verifiable source, but my taggings were repeatedly removed. This is claimed to be a picture of the construction of a bridge that was inaugurated on 1910. This would mean the image's copyright would be expired today. But, without a verifiable source, we can't really say this picture is really what it says it is. Using unsourced images like this opens a grave precedent. Yes, this image is probably what it says it is, but just like anything else on Wikipedia, we need verifiable sources. Damiens.rf 12:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and block user for disruption. This is a very obviously public domain image. This user has had this pointed out to him by myself, Theresa Knott, and numerous other users, but has persisted in repeatedly nominating it for deletion. Rebecca (talk) 13:08, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You're an admin. If you honestly believe I should be blocked, go on and do it yourself and face the consequences, instead of inciting others to do so. IFD is for discussion about the images, not the editors. Please keep your rant elsewhere. --Damiens.rf 17:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Quality and content of the photograph suggests its age is as stated and hence it is now public domain. Unusual? Quite TalkQu 13:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)\[reply]
  • Keep and block nominator for disruption - per reasons said by Rebecca, and also disruptively nominated this image when it was clearly stated it was in the Public Domain and is a work of the Australian government. --[[::User:Arnzy|Arnzy]] ([[::User talk:Arnzy|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Arnzy|contribs]]) 14:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep and block nominator for disruption' per Rebecca and Arnzy. The user has been warned about nominating this again. JRG (talk) 00:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I agree that the image is consistent with the claims as to what it is and, while I haven't been to Paterson in a few months, it does seem to be taken at Paterson. That said, the nominator does have a point in that the image has no source information. I have tagged the image appropriately and notified the uploader, which is really what the nominator should have done before listing here. I believe that the uploader should be given time to provide source information before any deletion is considered as the image does, in my opinion, have historical value. --AussieLegend (talk) 04:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Silly nomination of obviously public domain image.--Grahame (talk) 06:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:NikitaKhrushchev.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Flcelloguy (notify | contribs).
Image:Beria timemag 1101530720 400.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Humus sapiens (notify | contribs).
Comment. That's an interesting point, as I didn't look at the caption. I'm not sure it justifies the use of a non free image though as another, free, image of anyone (not just Beria) who had been described as an enemy of the people could be equally suitable. Just a thought. Unusual? Quite TalkQu 17:01, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Even if the image is relevant to the article, it can't be used in any article as there is no fair-use rationale for any article at this time. --AussieLegend (talk) 23:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:CarterTIMECover1994.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).
Image:Clinton Tsongas.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).
Image:DeanTime.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bbsrock (notify | contribs).
Image:KargilPak.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Idleguy (notify | contribs).
  • This eye-candy time magazine cover is used in one article where it's not mentioned anywhere other than the (unsourced) image's caption itself. Damiens.rf 15:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and work into article better. Given the significant status that a Time magazine front cover confers on a subject, and the extremely important nature of the ongoing kashmir troubles, deletion makes no sense at all, and would further reinforce systematic bias. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:JseinfeldTIME.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bbsrock (notify | contribs).
  • This eye-candy time magazine cover is used jut to decorate the information "Jerry Seinfeld was even featured on the cover of Time magazine's first issue of 1998" (no other mention in the article) Damiens.rf 15:11, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Time magazine considered the series end significant enough to warrant a cover story, which hence makes the image of the cover significant. By removing the image, the article's value would be diminished. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:James-rouse.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs).
Image:Frol Kozlov.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Todowd (notify | contribs).
Image:Malta Summit.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Lamato (notify | contribs).
  • Time magazine cover used in 2 articles, according to rationale, just because this is a very good and useful photo. Neither the magazine itself nor the photo are notable by themselves (and thus, not mentioned in the article). Instead, the event in the image is notable, and we're using Time's work because it fits our agenda. Damiens.rf 15:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - It has long been established that coverage by Time magazine (especially front coverage) is note-worthy with respect to the subject being covered. In the context of the time, the cover is extremely significant, especially with the choice of headline. It is also very suspicious that the nominator chose to say that "we're using Time's work because it fits our agenda", which implies in turn a personal disagreement beyond the policies of wikipedia. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Malta Summit article can certainly survive deletion of this image; however, it seems to me that use of this image fits perfectly within acceptable criteria for "fair use". In my view, it "shows the key persons behind the subject of this article, and how the event was depicted to the general public." The image shows the two protagonists, Bush and Gorbachev, while Time's choice of headline illustrates how the Summit was depicted to the general public. lamato(talk) 20:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Nima Baghaei (notify | contribs).
I see. Good point. TimidGuy (talk) 16:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In the case of the articles in question here, free content seems to be available, and hence this is a valid point. However it must be remembered that an encyclopaedia exists for its readers, which on the whole are unlikely to understand the licensing issue and only see, from their perspective, the destruction of article quality, when no alternative images have been sourced. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Khan cover - Time magazine.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Fastfission (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover used in an article that does not talks about this image nor about this magazine. Damiens.rf 15:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral, tending to weak keep - Many other images seem to exist, however the magazine cover does lend a certain weight to the commentary on his cultural impact, the headline in particular establishes him as being seen as a "dangerous man". Suggest that the article itself is edited to work this information in, and then reconsider delete. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Illustrates very clearly the US reaction to this person. Could be referred to easily in the text. Is not just "eye candy" and using a very-low res cover of a well-known magazine for this purpose is well within the bounds of fair use. Magazine covers are considered pretty safe fair use (low res, doesn't deprive from future income, magazine themselves make them freely available anyway, nobody has ever complained, are a recognized way of showing cultural impact), I'm not sure why you're making a little crusade against them at just this moment. --Fastfission (talk) 19:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:LeaderTIME.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).
Image:Margaret-1951.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Americasroof (notify | contribs).
Image:Marichal-time.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Never been to spain (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover has no rationale explaining why is it supposed to be used in an article that does not mentions the image neither the magazine. Damiens.rf 15:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The mention by Time magazine is important, so it is very strange indeed that no mention of the coverage is made at all in the article. It implies that the baseball player was culturally significant, yet the article itself talks only in terms of baseball stats and not wider press coverage. My instincts say weak delete, however we need to encourage people in the know to enhance this article, as something seems to be amiss. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:59, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Parenttime.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sparkhurst (notify | contribs).
  • Time magazine cover used in 3 articles that fail to mention the image and the magazine. It's even used as the main picture of a BLP (despite the fact that we can't see the poor guy's face on the picture) Damiens.rf 15:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Mitsumasa Yonai on TIME cover 1937.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Insomniacpuppy (notify | contribs).
Image:Mitsumasa Yonai on TIME cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Insomniacpuppy (notify | contribs).
Image:Paradorn Srichaphan TIME cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by NaiPiak (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover is used in an article that only contains a trivial mention of the magazine's publication: "...and in 2003, Paradorn was featured on the cover of Time and featured as one of the year's "Asian heroes."" Damiens.rf 15:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Nabokov time may 23 1969.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bwithh (notify | contribs).
Image:MillsTIME.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).
Image:Phil-murray-aug-4-1952.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Haus (notify | contribs).
Image:TheGodGene.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mateuszica (notify | contribs).
Image:SchiaparelliTime.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by D C McJonathan (notify | contribs).
Image:Timeface.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Grandpafootsoldier (notify | contribs).
Image:Time-mcgovern.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Americasroof (notify | contribs).
Image:Time-eagleton.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Americasroof (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep - I don't think the Time magazine mention in this article is trivial; and even if that was the case, that doesn't qualify this image as eye-candy. This magazine cover, along with the other one highlights the media coverage from his selection as VP to his resignation. These images signify media coverage in general (Time being very popular) and not the instance of the magazine's media coverage. Saeed Jahed (talk) 08:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Shriver-time.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Americasroof (notify | contribs).
Image:Time-magazine-cover-thebigthree.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by JoeWiki (notify | contribs).
Image:Time-eagleton-affair.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Americasroof (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep - As mentioned previously, I don't think the Time magazine mention in this article is trivial; and even if that was the case, that doesn't qualify this image as eye-candy. This magazine cover, along with the other one highlights the media coverage from his selection as VP to his resignation. These images signify media coverage in general (Time being very popular) and not the instance of the magazine's media coverage. Saeed Jahed (talk) 08:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Timeimus.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bbsrock (notify | contribs).
Keep - It's in a large section of controversial remarks and actions and media responses to those actions. I am also alarmed by the nominator's apparent targetting of TIME covers with the same generic reasoning each time.Syferus (talk) 21:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And I got alarmed by the amount of unjustifed non-free images I found on that category. Other magazines following. Stay tunned. About your keep argument, what would prevent reader to understand such section while not seeing this image? --Damiens.rf 18:59, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Virtually any concept that can be understood from images can also be understood from text. This does not disqualify a non-free images from being used in articles. Covers from magazines such as Time, in most cases (and certainly in this case,) very importantly signify media coverage. Saeed Jahed (talk) 08:27, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:TimeCover10Dec1956.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ryanjo (notify | contribs).
Image:Waco siege TIME Magazine cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Smoth 007 (notify | contribs).
Image:WhitmanTimeCover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sherurcij (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the image isn't used as eye-candy, it is used to illustrate the prominence and notoriety that the subject achieved by the incidents in which he was involved, including the cover of Time. It is being used congruent with its license. Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe we could somehow convey this same information with freely licensed text only. Let me try: "Charles Whitman was born in 1941"... hmmm, didn't worked. Maybe "Charles Whitman is a prominent Russian writer"... no, no, still not there.... hmmm... what about "Charles Whitman was featured on the cover of Time Magazine". YES! Perfect! Voila! I'm a genius!!! --Damiens.rf 23:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep - The magazine cover is discussed in the article and a text of that discussion alone certainly does not convey the idea. Saeed Jahed (talk) 08:39, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Weil.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bbsrock (notify | contribs).
Image:1101670804 400.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jtmichcock (notify | contribs).
Image:Aquino time.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Exec8 (notify | contribs).
Image:Casey Stengel Time Cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Hayford Peirce (notify | contribs).
Image:Reverse flying v1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by GreenRunner0 (notify | contribs).
  • It's a copyrighted image, done by Gibson to promote their guitars. It's clearly not a Creative Commons, and barely it would qualify for any fair use, as it's possible to replace it with free equivalent. GreyCat (talk) 17:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:RegencySquare logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wilson hood (notify | contribs).
Image:Don't Billy Currington iTunes.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Holiday56 (notify | contribs).
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