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survey

the link is dead. somone got a copy or a different survey?

MTA = ???

Shouldn't it be Mail TRANSPORT Agent, and not Mail Transfer Agent?

The Postfix, Courier, and Exim projects each call their software a mail transfer agent but Debian and Fedora both classify those software packages as mail transport agents.

MTA

i think who ever wrote this article was having a laugh!

MTA

added message transfer agent per http://www.exim.org/ home page. xenoterracide 16:04, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

simplify please

I read this article and none of it made sense(too many abbreviations)210.50.101.206 00:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why two protocols?

Can someone write a paragraph explaining why MTAs operate with two protocols (SMTP and POP3)? I can understand that SMTP is used to transfer messages between servers, and POP3 is used to transfer messages from the server to a client, but it's a little obscure as to why users must then send messages to their local SMTP, as opposed to connecting directly to the receiving SMTP, or sending via POP3 to the local server. It seems like an inconsistent design and I don't know enough about the evolution of this system to explain it. Ham Pastrami (talk) 08:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

pop3 is a complete different beast. it isnt part of the MTA. Although the Microsoft thingy might include pop3 in the same service binary, it has nothing to do with mail exchange. pop3 is just a protocoll for a Mail User Agent to connect to the machine where the mails for a user are stored. Back when smtp was invented, there were no "end user machines". The only machine a user was able to read mails on, was a terminal connected to a big server machine. usually one or two per company/university. So smtp makes a lot of sense there. Nowadays everyone got a computer themselfs, but smtp is still used becouse it is already deployed widely. Now,... the reason you have to send your outgoing mail to your ISP first , who will then send it to the receiver is simply becouse of spam. Alot of end user machines are compromised by third parties without the owner noticing it. The worms send spam directly to the receivers mta. Thats why direct mail from end user machines are usually blocked. There are still alot of compromised servers around, but they got a fixed ip, so you can block them easily. Technicaly there is indeed no reason why you can't just send your mails directly to any mta. 88.73.249.87 (talk) 09:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC) aepvhjvhvjhvjhvh[reply]

Huston we have a problem

I just started an article on E-mail Letter. An E-mail Letter is an email which gets delivered like a real letter. The e-mail letter service provider prints the email, puts it into an envelope and sends it to the receiver by "snail mail".

The problem I have is that the postman delivering the letter could be called a mail delivery agent, so there's a thin line between postman and mail delivery agent, while the machine which is printing and envelopping the letter also could be referred to a mail transfer agent.

The problem I'm having is a differentiation between real world and cyberworld. Just like a letter can refer to a written message or a letter in the alphabet, a mail delivery agent could also be a postman, and a mail transfer agent could be the printer and envelopping machine which transfers the email into a letter.

I'd be happy, if you leave me a note on my talking page about your opinion and the decision you have made. Copies: Nehtefa talking page, mail transfer agent talk.

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 Can someone write a paragraph explaining why MTAs operate with two protocols (SMTP and POP3)? I can understand that SMTP is used to transfer messages between servers, and POP3 is used to transfer messages from the server to a client, but it's a little obscure as to why users must then send messages to their local SMTP, as opposed to connecting directly to the receiving SMTP, or sending via POP3 to the local server. It seems like an inconsistent design and I don't know enough about the evolution of this system to explain it. [[User:Ham Pastrami|Ham Pastrami]] ([[User talk:Ham Pastrami|talk]]) 08:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 :pop3 is a complete different beast. it isnt part of the MTA. Although the Microsoft thingy might include pop3 in the same service binary, it has nothing to do with mail exchange. pop3 is just a protocoll for a Mail User Agent to connect to the machine where the mails for a user are stored.  Back when smtp was invented, there were no "end user machines". The only machine a user was able to read mails on, was a terminal connected to a big server machine. usually one or two per  company/university. So smtp makes a lot of sense there. Nowadays everyone got a computer themselfs, but smtp is still used becouse it is already deployed widely. Now,... the reason you have to send your outgoing mail to your ISP first , who will then send it to the receiver is simply becouse of spam. Alot of end user machines are compromised by third parties without the owner noticing it. The worms send spam directly to the receivers mta. Thats why direct mail from end user machines are usually blocked. There are still alot of compromised servers around, but they got a fixed ip, so you can block them easily. Technicaly there is indeed no reason why you can't just send your mails directly to any mta. [[Special:Contributions/88.73.249.87|88.73.249.87]] ([[User talk:88.73.249.87|talk]]) 09:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC) aepvhjvhvjhvjhvh
+==Huston we have a problem==
+I just started an article on [[E-mail Letter]]. An E-mail Letter is an email which gets delivered like a real letter. The e-mail letter service provider prints the email, puts it into an envelope and sends it to the receiver by "snail mail".
+The problem I have is that the postman delivering the letter could be called a [[mail delivery agent]], so there's a thin line between postman and mail delivery agent, while the machine which is printing and envelopping the letter also could be referred to a [[mail transfer agent]].
+The problem I'm having is a differentiation between real world and cyberworld. Just like a letter can refer to a written message or a letter in the alphabet, a mail delivery agent could also be a postman, and a mail transfer agent could be the printer and envelopping machine which transfers the email into a letter.
+I'd be happy, if you leave me a note on my talking page about your opinion and the decision you have made. Copies: Nehtefa talking page, mail transfer agent talk.