Talk:WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009

Non-playable list

Why exactly is it in the article? Many video games have characters that you can't play as, but that doesn't mean we need to list them. Look at just about any video game article: there is NOT non-playable lists. As I looked at other wrestling articles: they have them as well. Non-playables in wrestling games don't instantly trump other articles. So I'm stating this now: the list isn't notable. If you want a full character list, go to a video game speciality site. RobJ1981 (talk) 19:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)]

How long until you try to change the roster into prose?

Are you happy now? I put the list of NPC's up in the first place because people kept on adding Hornswoggle to the roster but now since you've deemed the list "trivia" and "cruft" and removed it for no good reason, people are just going to constantly add him to the roster. DoomahX (talk) 23:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)DoomahX

Here comes the yearly RobJ1981 Smackdown vs. Raw video game edit war. Where's my popcorn? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.40.56 (talk) 23:55, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit

Just wanted to let you know that I updated the article. I deleted the DLC section for a couple of reasons. The first reason was that it was poorly written (seemed like a child wrote it). The second reason was that it was already in the Online Features section. Jayharper2009 (talk) 01:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Good call. --Kaizer13 (talk) 02:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

"Unconfirmed" DLC Superstars?

Maybe I didn't find the source confirming they "might" appear, but if they're unconfirmed, why are they even listed at all? Sounds like OR or wishful thinking to me. Other opinions? Spartan198 (talk) 00:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC) Spartan198

Yes, I am quite skeptical as well. Does whoever made the new additions to the rosters have any proof of the announcement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tweak95 (talk • contribs)

C'mon, use your common sense? That's basically the entire roster right there in that edit. No chance that's gonna happen. I mean, if you think about it it's really not that hard to separate likely facts from completely laughable edits like that one. --Kaizer13 (talk) 22:52, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Superstars like Dlo Brown R-Truth and Vladimir Kozlov deserve to be in the game. So that's why I put them on there hopefully THQ will see and they will make character models

Deservant or no, you can't add someone who has not been 100% confirmed here. And there's little to no chance that THQ will ever read that. --Kaizer13 (talk) 14:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm just sain that they deserve too be in there and THQ is probably already on the character models —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.98.169 (talk) 15:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Theres no way the will be on it since they came back while the advirtisments were on tv about the game.

Don't be an idiot, of course they'll be available in the DLC, especially Kozlov. He's a Main Eventer, they won't leave him out. Use some common sense, they wouldn't not add him because he signed his contract before the game was released, and THQ have already confirmed that they'll be updating it until the release of '10.--92.8.150.156 (talk) 20:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Other player modes

I think someone should put in the different types of a superstar, for example, triple h - triple h dx, santino marella - santino marella zombie... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalajan (talk • contribs) 19:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

No man, WP isn't a game guide. It's just supposed to list the characters in the game...a different attire doesn't automatically create a new character. No dice. --Kaizer13 (talk) 22:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Notable?

Is it really notable that the Rock isn't in SvR09? I don't see any mention of Steve Austin not being in the original SvR or Mick Foley not being in SYM. ${\mathfrak {s}}{\mathfrak {a}}{\mathfrak {v}}{\mathfrak {i}}{\mathfrak {o}}{\mathfrak {r}}$ ${\mathfrak {s}}{\mathfrak {e}}{\mathfrak {l}}{\mathfrak {f}}$${\mathfrak {.}}$${\mathfrak {7}}{\mathfrak {7}}{\mathfrak {7}}$ 03:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Remove —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.156.26.227 (talk) 05:03, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I too question the notability, but it is true that he's been in every one except this game, which breaks a "trend" in the games if you will, and that's what relates it to this article. --92.8.150.156 (talk) 20:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Masked Man and Tony are WCW

They may be unlocked through Raw superstars' RTWM, but they are filed under WCW in the game, not Raw. Why can't they be filed under WCW? ${\mathfrak {s}}{\mathfrak {a}}{\mathfrak {v}}{\mathfrak {i}}{\mathfrak {o}}{\mathfrak {r}}$ ${\mathfrak {s}}{\mathfrak {e}}{\mathfrak {l}}{\mathfrak {f}}$${\mathfrak {.}}$${\mathfrak {7}}{\mathfrak {7}}{\mathfrak {7}}$ 07:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I filed Masked Man under WCW in my version of the game, but I'm pretty sure he was listed under Raw by default. Haven't unlocked Tony yet. Maybe they're listed under WCW in a different version of the game or in an update, but if that's the case, we should probably try to find a source for that. Jeff Silvers (talk) 19:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

When I unlocked Tony and Masked Man they were listed under the Raw brand because they were unlocked in the RTWM mode on the Raw side. People assume they are on the WCW roster because of a Youtube video that listed them under there before the game was released.--SRX 21:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've unlocked Masked Man and he was under WCW when I did. And, when I helped a friend unlock Tony, he was on WCW, too. So, they're probably unlocked on Raw in some versions and WCW in other versions. So, I don't know. I just know that when I unlocked Masked Man and Tony, they were under WCW when I did so. ${\mathfrak {s}}{\mathfrak {a}}{\mathfrak {v}}{\mathfrak {i}}{\mathfrak {o}}{\mathfrak {r}}$ ${\mathfrak {s}}{\mathfrak {e}}{\mathfrak {l}}{\mathfrak {f}}$${\mathfrak {.}}$${\mathfrak {7}}{\mathfrak {7}}{\mathfrak {7}}$ 01:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, in my version (PS3, PAL) both Masked Man and Tony are Raw default characters. Perhaps there are some differences between region-specific versions, maybe they have different builds of the game or something? --Kaizer13 (talk) 02:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I recieved them as Raw... I have a 360. Mabye that means something. Jay S67.53.232.15 (talk) 02:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

They're Raw, The masked man is randy orton and mister kennedy, and tony is a friend of cena's, first seen on RAW (Tribute to the troops) so they're raw, ¿Have you ever seen WCW? There wasn´t a masked man and there wasn't a Tony the soldier. I don't think they would make up superstars, They're definatly RAW The Master Of All Wolves (talk) 15:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

When I unlocked them the Masked Man was Randy Orton on Raw and Tony was John Cena's freind also on Raw.YoMamma6188 (talk) 17:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Current Downloadable Content in Article

I do not see a reference for a published article saying Super Crazy, Dibiase, and Haas will be DLC.

Is there anything proving this? Otherwise they need to be deleted because they are purely speculation, therfore should not be in the article. And I now HIGHLY doubt Super Crazy will be in now since he has since been released, even if he now has a model. 67.53.232.15 (talk) 02:10, 10 December 2008 (UTC)Jay S

See the source provided in the footnote section? Next. --Kaizer13 (talk) 02:25, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Super Crazy is no longer coming. From this: [1] the first DLC pack will be Evan Bourne, Charlie Haas, Ted DiBiase, and an alternate attire for Chris Jericho for 400 point on the 360. No mention of PS3 cost. --68.46.124.81 (talk) 20:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Cheats

I'm going to include a cheat section: http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_trucos_guias.php?id=cw491ad1a97b821&pic=PS2&tipo=T&idj=cw48eb091bc2710 (its in spanish). If anyone is against it give a shout and I'll listen to all of your requests The Master Of All Wolves (talk) 15:30, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Who the hell removed that without saying anything The Master Of All Wolves (talk) 14:24, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

This sucks no Stone Cold and Rock.

Yah... The Master Of All Wolves (talk) 17:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a game guide. You can't add cheats or walkthroughs or anything like that. Did you even read the rules? --Kaizer13 (talk) 17:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

If in the game there's a cheat thing exclusively for cheats, what's wrong with it. Jealous I thought of it before you? The Master Of All Wolves (talk) 13:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Kalajan, Wikipedia is not a game guide. There are plenty of other websites people can go to for that information. Cheat codes are not notable and don't contribute to the encyclopedic value of an article. It's not going in.  Hazardous Matt  20:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

But people would appreciate it more if it was put down, the rules are there to be broken, I don't want this place to go wild or anything but the readers would appreciate it a lot. The Master Of All Wolves (talk) 22:09, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

1. The readers can buy a game guide if they want hints and tips.
2. Rules here are not meant to be broken. Breaking rules here will get someone banned.  Hazardous Matt  22:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

SO there can't be exceptions? Okay. The Master Of All Wolves (talk) 10:38, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Check out this

Link to image I'm just saying, it could be mentioned. The Master Of All Wolves (talk) 14:09, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

What could be mentioned? I have even clicked on the link and it looks to be nothing more of somebody's CAW just from the URL.  Hazardous Matt  20:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I took the liberty of modifying your link so it doesn't cause the formatting of the page to go nuts in some browsers.  Hazardous Matt  20:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Kelly Kelly is on ECW by default

Anyone who has the game knows this. She should be under ECW, not RAW. Maxwell7985 (talk) 04:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Kalajan 16:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)