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Lift or tramway?

Re Pichpich's category change - a lift inherently goes up, a tramway goes along...though I can think of tramways that do go up...there isnt' a "gondola" subcat for "lifts" is there? Point is this is a high-altitude traverse, not a lift from base up; or do the categories overlap because otherwise they seem redundant, or subject to vague definition.Skookum1 (talk) 03:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia says 3S is aerial tramway, see 3S Aerial Tramway. (Wikipedia have some definitions at Aerial tramway#Overview and Aerial lift). The french version of Doppelmayr 3S product [1] Home » Produits » Transports par câble » Téléphériques 2S et 3S (which I guess is the correct product), uses the word "Téléphérique" which according to the lede of Aerial tramway is the french word of aerial tramway. But the English version of the same page [2] Home » Products » Ropeways » Bicable and Tricable Ropeways, uses the word "Ropeway" instead. One year ago Doppelmayr called it a "Gondola lift", see [3] page 4. Perhaps the difference between an aerial tramway/gondola lift now is: two big cars/many small cars, and haul rope of aerial tramway goes back and forth, but of gondola lift is endlessly circulating??? Najro (talk) 15:22, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shipped via Vancouver WA?

The text says explicitly, and more than once, that the cables arrived via Vancouver, Washington, which really surprises me. Extra costs, customs conveyance, Vancouver BC traffic, the difficulties of the Howe Sound Highway etc....I'm not doubting that this is the way it was done, since someone's being so explicit here, but can anyone say why they were shipped via Vancouver WA and not via a closer port to Whistler. Namely, in fact, via Squamish, which is a deep-water port and also a location which wouldn't have involved trucking the cable through Vancouver BC's nightmarish traffic (or Seattle's, for that matter) and via the twisty and narrow Squamish Highway/Sea-to-Sky Highway. Just seems to have been a big waste of money, i.e. in extra shipping costs. Can someone here explain please? Or should it have been Vancouver BC all along?Skookum1 (talk) 14:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"The Port of Vancouver USA owns the largest mobile harbour crane in North America. The port’s heavy-lift mobile harbour crane – a Liebherr LHM500 – is capable of lifting 140 metric tons, or the equivalent of two space shuttles."

Source: http://www.peak2peakgondola.com/news/?p=26

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 ==Shipped via Vancouver WA?==
 The text says explicitly, and more than once, that the cables arrived via Vancouver, Washington, which really surprises me.  Extra costs, customs conveyance, Vancouver BC traffic, the difficulties of the Howe Sound Highway etc....I'm not doubting that this is the way it was done, since someone's being so explicit here, but can anyone say ''why'' they were shipped via Vancouver WA and not via a closer port to Whistler.  Namely, in fact, via Squamish, which is a deep-water port and also a location which wouldn't have involved trucking the cable through Vancouver BC's nightmarish traffic (or Seattle's, for that matter) and via the twisty and narrow Squamish Highway/Sea-to-Sky Highway.  Just seems to have been a big waste of money, i.e. in extra shipping costs.  Can someone here explain please?  Or should it have been Vancouver BC all along?[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 14:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
+"The Port of Vancouver USA owns the largest mobile harbour crane in North America. The port’s heavy-lift mobile harbour crane – a Liebherr LHM500 – is capable of lifting 140 metric tons, or the equivalent of two space shuttles."
+Source: http://www.peak2peakgondola.com/news/?p=26