User talk:Cmchir

I note the threatening comments you left on my user page about making efforts to track me down for the contributions I made to the articles on Herbert Ganado and Joseph Flores. You assert that the comments I have made are libellous, and that you are personally connected to the families of the individuals. You may want to note, however, that the information is not original research but comes from published and referenced sources. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedic resource; it is not a vehicle for personal benefit. I take threats to my wellbeing very seriously and would like to inform you that I have referred the case to wikipedia administrators to consider an appropriate response. Contaldo80 (talk) 15:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009

You have been indefinitely blocked from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for making legal threats or taking legal action. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia as long as the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. If you believe that a legal action is warranted, you may contact our information team at info-en@wikimedia.org and they may forward it to our legal counsel or a more appropriate venue. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Protonk (talk) 16:04, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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Cmchir (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Hi, the reason why I have replied to user Contaldo in that was because the text put down there was offensive to the families of the deceased concerned, irrespective whether they were quoted or not. I never threatened legal action, just said that it was libellous and defamatory, and the text could be used to harm the offsprings of the deceased. Hence, I kindly ask you to consider my unblock plea since I was only putting down statements of fact, not threats. Best Regards Cmchir (talk) 14:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Per comment below, and your obliviousness to the fact that calling someone else's posting "libellous and defamatory" strongly implies a willingness to take legal action. — Daniel Case (talk) 15:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

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You threatened to take actions to trace his identity along with stating that. The only reason you would want to know his identity is to take legal action, therefore it was a legal threat. 24.99.242.63 (talk) 15:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

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Look, I'm sorry if that was the case, however I just wanted to say that in order to protect the family. I have no interest whatsoever to trace a person, unless he is attacking me personally. I will exercise due care next time in any of the future postings. Would appreciate if you could please unblock me.

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I'm concerned about the edit war you were in when you were blocked. How do you plan to proceed? Toddst1 (talk) 17:09, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to suggest that reviewing admins look at the content of the edit in question. It seems to me unencyclopedic and highly POV, and this editor may well have quite correct to remove it. Were the subject alive, it would be a clear BLP violation. This editor might have breached NLT; however, this editor might well also be in the right here. A word to the other editor might be helpful. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 18:00, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think merely calling something libelous should be considered a legal threat, if nothing else it's something we need to be able to discuss to cover our asses legally. As the claims in the articles seem to be stripped down to to what can be supported with references now, I think there's something to be said for unblocking and starting with a clean slate, with everybody remembering that the suggestion of legal threats is something to be carefully avoided. I'll leave a note on Protonk's talk asking him if he'd agree. --fvw* 05:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, if you allow me to put further comments, I would appreciate if you could review the edits I tried to do - you will notice that such edits will only put the 2 persons in question in a more justifiable light and with ethical correctness. Labelling the 2 deceased individuals with certain allegations/associations just because one book alleges so may be considered to be unfair. Not all what is written in books is sacrosant, even less when it can be taken advantage of to hurt others. The country where I come from and where these 2 personalities lived is small and a close Catholic community - so one has to be careful what to write, otherwise it may be taken advantage of on local media and may be used against their descendants. Respecting the culture & social aspect of a country is important. What applies to more liberal countries may not apply to our country.

The allegation put on Herbert Ganado that he had direct links with Italian Fascists is not true - again it is just an opinion in a book - he was just suspected on such links, and there are other documents to prove otherwise. Please refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Maltese_history amongst others (refer to World War II section) The internment and exile was also deemed illegal and null. Contaldo80 preferred to leave this piece out.

Finally, I do agree re the comments on legal threats (Although I just said it was libellous), and will promise to be careful how to put my comments on in the future. Thanks for your understanding. Cmchir (talk) 10:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

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