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BigDunc: A list of the names of the nine killed in this attack does not constitute an honoring of departed friends etc as Wikipedia defines memorialising: 'Memorials. Wikipedia is not the place to honor departed friends and relatives. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements.'

The mortar attack entry is anyway short and the names are provided in a few lines. I would be interested to know just who died and that several were women officers. It will go back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.65.72 (talk) 22:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BigDunc: I checked your input and discover you have created a number of Wikipedia entries for minor deceased IRA members including a London bomber so why are you so censorious here? Leave it be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.63.131 (talk) 22:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A list of names is exactly what you would expect to find on a memorial, and the list had no encyclopedic or educational value and the only possible purpose is a memorial. O Fenian (talk) 00:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a question of 'honouring' these nine dead people, as BigDunc (an arch memorialiser of the less than notable) alleges is contrary to Wikipedia's opposition to memorialising, but of providing a factual detail as to who died. The whole entry exists because so many RUC officers were murdered on the one day so why is it so dreadful to name them? The Bloody Friday, Loughinisland, and Bloody Sunday entries name the dead. Strip them out too if you are so oppposed to such lists and want to be consistent.

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	:A list of names is exactly what you would expect to find on a memorial, and the list had no encyclopedic or educational value and the only possible purpose is a memorial. [[User:O Fenian\|O Fenian]] ([[User talk:O Fenian\|talk]]) 00:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)		:A list of names is exactly what you would expect to find on a memorial, and the list had no encyclopedic or educational value and the only possible purpose is a memorial. [[User:O Fenian\|O Fenian]] ([[User talk:O Fenian\|talk]]) 00:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

			It is not a question of 'honouring' these nine dead people, as BigDunc (an arch memorialiser of the less than notable) alleges is contrary to Wikipedia's opposition to memorialising, but of providing a factual detail as to who died. The whole entry exists because so many RUC officers were murdered on the one day so why is it so dreadful to name them? The Bloody Friday, Loughinisland, and Bloody Sunday entries name the dead. Strip them out too if you are so oppposed to such lists and want to be consistent.