Talk:Lost (2004 TV series)

Former civilization on the island?

Question... is there the presence of another civilization on the Island? I ask this because there were a few monuments and buildings that were not of Dharma construction. I think it was in season 2 that a left foot of a giant statue (colossus) foot was seen on the beach... with only four toes. Also, there seemed to be a temple like structure where Locke's father was tied to a colum. Also, when the young Ben was in the class room after his arrival to the island... the teacher was describing a volcanic eruption when a student asked "like what happened here" and the teacher had said yes.

Is there anywhere where this info can be sources/researched more? It seems to be these are hints at a possibly Atlantis origion, with the "Hostiles" as prehaps their decendents?

Prehaps a timeline of the island may be created?♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 22:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Season five cast

Instead of edit-warring over who is going to be credited in season five, we may as well discuss it. According to the ABC press release [1], Rebecca Mader and Daniel Dae Kim are not credited as main cast members for season five. This does not mean that these actors will not appear in season five. Reports have stated that Jin will be back, but have not reported whether or not he will be a main cast member. Ausiello of Entertainment Weekly says Jin will be back dead or alive, but does not report his cast status.[2] And Kristin of E! says that Jin is "fine," but again does not specify cast status. [3] Furthermore Cuse has been quoted as saying that Jin will be in season 5 "in some form" and again makes no mention of casting status.[4] Also, the information on Charlotte I could find is that she has a "recurring arc with a possible option for series regular next [in the fifth] season,"[5] which comes from DarkUFO, which isn't even reliable. The only reliable source that deals with casting information is the aforementioned press release. Therefore, per WP:V, it is my opinion that neither Rebecca Mader nor DDK should be listed as main cast members in season five because the only source regarding their main cast member status says that they are not credited as such. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 02:08, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

I endorse this statement. –thedemonhog talk • edits 02:37, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Critic Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune agrees. –thedemonhog talk • edits 07:10, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Let's do what we always do when the sources differ from The Truth^TM: Report in the article which source says what, and leave it up to the reader to make up his mind. We'll know better in two months. (I.e. I agree.) – sgeureka ^t•c 17:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't really help for the bolding of current cast members in the infobox, so I'm just going to unbold everyone like it used to be. Anyways, I'm going to change the prose to "ABC has reported that Rebecca Mader and Daniel Dae Kim are not credited as main cast members in season five. However, executive producer Carlton Cuse has stated that Jin, Kim's character, will be on the show "in some form." "

Any objections? --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 20:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

There's an objection here. The press release simply doesn't mention them. They're not reporting their absence, the press release is not directly related to the cast. Rehevkor ✉ 20:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

The press release reports that there are 12 actors and no one else credited as main cast members; the main subject of the press release doesn't matter. It's either a reliable source or it isn't. Since everything else in the press release is accurate then it is reasonable to assert that the cast list is accurate as well. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 20:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes but the proposed prose would be inaccurate, "ABC has reported" suggests they they have categorically stated neither actor will be main cast members, but they're just not on the list. The source does not support the statement. Rehevkor ✉ 20:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

How about: "ABC has not listed Rebecca Mader and Daniel Dae Kim as main cast members in season five. However, executive producer Carlton Cuse has stated that Jin, Kim's character, will be on the show "in some form." " --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 20:37, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. Rehevkor ✉ 20:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Why is Charlotte not a main character? :/ She's appearing in all of the promotional material for this season so far, and her storyline was only set up at the end of Season 4... Could this change in the near future before the episodes air?

See the above link to ABC's press release where she isn't listed as a cast member. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 12:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

http://www.imagebam.com/image/a6dd2b20019733 Doesn't this link suggest otherwise? I'm not arguing, I just think it's pretty strange Charlotte wouldn't be a main cast member! I'm hopeful she will be. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.197.190.40 (talk) 03:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

It suggests otherwise and this is strange, but she has once again not been listed in the main cast by ABC Medianet. –thedemonhog talk • edits 03:57, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

But there is still a chance they will include her in the main cast before the season airs, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.197.190.40 (talk) 04:13, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure. So far the only "evidence" is a lack of a credit. It's not actually been confirmed directly yet. Rehevkor ✉ 04:45, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

In an interview, Darlton said that season 5 would have 14 main cast members AND that Jin is one of them. Without Charlotte, that makes 13, and considering that she was in the promotional material, I think we can safely say she is a main cast member. I am going to ammend the cast to the season 5 cast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by J52y (talk • contribs) 10:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Link, please. –thedemonhog talk • edits 18:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Jin is definitely a main cast member, and I believe both Kristin and Ausiello has reported this. Not sure about the 14 member part. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 01:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

"Lost currently has 14 series regulars, Lindelof reveals". –thedemonhog talk • edits 01:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Note that it didn't say who the 14 regulars are. For all we know, Nestor Carbonell could be credited as a regular this season and next. Same goes for Alan Dale, or any new characters being introduced this season. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 15:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Cast and characters.

Well, for the last two hours, the table of cast and characters has been added, removed, re-added, touched up, and removed again. We should figure out a way to have this. I don't think we should have an extensive list, as we have the Characters of Lost page. But a brief mention of the things within the table wouldn't hurt. Just my opinion. --HELLØ ŦHERE 22:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I think we should follow WP:EMBED and leave it as prose only. We specifically have a link to the list of characters page so that people can go there for a list. It's pointless, in my opinion, to have the almost exact same list in multiple articles. Also, we already have a cast list in the info box. How many times does each actor need to be listed on this page? --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 02:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

No need for the characters to be listed in the info box. It makes it too cluttered. Milchama (talk) 14:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Naomi arriving on the island

"The team leader was Naomi Dorrit (Marsha Thomason), the first person to arrive to the island after the crash of Oceanic 815."

I don't like how this is worded. Mr. Friendly went off the island and came back between Micheal leaving the island and Naomi arriving. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geraldpringle (talk • contribs) 03:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

You could use that argument for Desmond too. Only thing is, both of them were on the island, left, and came back. That is not an arrival. --HELLØ ŦHERE 03:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Viewers for Season 5

"It received 20 million viewers." is what it says in the text while the table says about 11 million. I think something is amiss216.194.116.178 (talk) 03:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. –thedemonhog talk • edits 05:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

zack and mirir

how/ when will the lost page be unlocked? i've signed up as a memeber and it wont let me edit.

But i'd like to add that Lost was briefly mention in zack and miri make a porno, in the scene where the eponymous characters are filming. One crew member asked another 'hey man, i missed lost this week', with the response being 'they're on the island, they're off the island, who can keep up with that shit?'. A third crew-member responds, 'i think they're in hell'.

The page has been locked for quite some time and will probably remain locked for a while due to heavy amounts of vandalism when it was unlocked. If you wait until your account is autoconfirmed (4 days, 10 edits) you will be able to edit the page. Also, specific references to the show in other media isn't notable enough for inclusion, unless it is talked about in reliable third party publications. See the guideline on notability. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 17:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

video game

Should we add stuff about the game in other media? Firio (talk) 19:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)